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xequar
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500.  Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| A-kir-A wrote: | Does any else here hate the metal pads in the arcade? cause i know i do.
i own the import version of extreme for my ps2 and can AA almost every light, most standard, and some heavy songs such as:Light-burnin the floor
Standard-theme from space door maco (y'know, that song by a.s.a.? yea that one)
Heavy-love love shine.
But when i try these songs in the arcade... i screw up and D everything!!  |
I have spent the last several months making the transition from being able to pass anything (except PSM and PSMO) at home to playing in the arcade. The first thing to remember is that the perfect window on the PS and PS2 home versions is big enough to drive a truck through. Honestly, I would estimate it to be about 3 to 4 times bigger than the arcade. It also seems that the timing is different, as in at the arcade, you have to step sooner than on the home versions. So, if you're just starting at the arcade, take it easy. Pick a fun song that you know well and is 2 or 3 feet below your high level, and play that. It'll help you get the feel for what's going on with the arcade.
| Quote: | seeing that it was only the second--third time i ever played on the arcade version, i started to notice that my feet were either stomping the wrong place on the pad (hitting the metal parts instead) or i wasn't hitting the arrows hard enough! GRRR!!! I DISLIKE YOU PAD OF METAL!!
anyway... I could really use some advice or... (damn! out of synonyms!)
well... advice on playing on the pad at the arcades before i humiliate myself any further. |
If you are used to playing on a soft pad, and are reasonably small and/or weak-legged, you might need to get used to the extra weight associated with playing wearing shoes. Also, the spacing on the arcade pads (despite what any manufacturer or anyone else will say) is slightly "larger" than home pads, meaning that you actually have to move your foot farther to hit the appropriate arrow. This is both because of the spacing and because the arrows on an arcade are depressed in comparison to the other panels on an arcade pad (which you cannot find on any home pad. And, it is possible that the arcade you were at simply had poorly maintained arrows (unfortunately all too common). The arcade pads are very consistant, unlike home pads that have random registration issues. If the arcade pads are poorly maintained, they will be consistantly bad
My ultimate advice, then, is this. Don't expect to do as well at the arcade, and if at the arcade, forget all the scores and standards you normally can play to on the home version, because there really is no basis for comparison. Play a lot at the arcade, as it is really a large adjustment, even from metal pads and a home version, and accept that you are going to "be worse" for a time. Oh, and most importantly, have fun.
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Shenjoku777
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| 501. Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hey I've been having this problem for a while and I really need help because it's screwing me up really bad in the arcade. when I see a group of arrows like LDR or like the part at the beggining of Can't stop fallin' in love (speed mix) on Heavy, I always like use my left foot to hit L and D and then my right foot for R. I can't figure out how to get out of this habbit, and It's really becoming a problem. If anyone has any ideas on how I can fix this please tell me! I really need to know!
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Timotei Fortress 2
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| 502. Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Shenjoku777 wrote: | | I can't figure out how to get out of this habbit, and It's really becoming a problem. If anyone has any ideas on how I can fix this please tell me! I really need to know! |
Yeah, I used to have the same problem. The only way to break the habit is to force yourself to learn to crossover. CSFiL mix is a bit fast for it, but at 1.5x you should be able to anticipate when and where the crossovers are coming. And say, for LDR steps, you start with your left foot on the Left arrow, then your right foot to the Down arrow, and left to Right. . reverse, rince, repeat. It gets easier after a while. There's easier songs to practice crossovers too, like Spin the Disc and whatever else. .
Um, anyway. I've been having PA issues lately. . as in, I'll have half perfects and half greats in songs. I know practice would cure this eventually, but is there a specific set of songs that would best be tuned to such a thing, or just any song that I think would be worthy of it? Thanks in advance. ^^ |
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Haruka
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| 503. Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well you don't have to learn to crossover haha i have a friend who can pass Dancemania and who never crosses over :O scary double stepping talent.
I advise using easier songs to practice cross-overs with a few harder thrown in. I had major cross-over problems when i started heavy. You just have to force yourself into doing them, so get used to a song that has them and practice. For harder ones you CSFIL:SM and Rhythm & Police. Also the beginning of AM3P is very good but try practicing easier 7 foot songs. If you can do cross-overs that are one off then its easier to do streams. sync might also be helpful. I think the reason i had a lot of cross-over problems is cause i was uncomfortable with my body facing a weird way while still looking at the screen. Oh if heavy songs seem too fast to practice cross-overs on then i know Butterfly on Light/Standard has long easy slow segments.
| Quote: | | Um, anyway. I've been having PA issues lately. . as in, I'll have half perfects and half greats in songs. I know practice would cure this eventually, but is there a specific set of songs that would best be tuned to such a thing, or just any song that I think would be worthy of it? Thanks in advance. ^^ |
PA - listen to the music and listen to your feet. If you have no problems getting perfects with on-beat steps then practice your half-beat steps. Try not to rush them. If you practice songs that are easy and improve PA to AAing then your timing on harder ones should improve too. Try AA'ing pop4 normal with as least greats as possible and watch where you get the greats. Try getting your great count down and AA'ing easy songs like sexy planet oni or kind lady. It all depends on your skill level but in essence drop your playing level a little and practice easier things. The reason i say this is that PA is not just about timing yourself, you can have fantastic timing but not so fantastic PA. Balance and positioning of your body and feet are a BIG part. Select some easy songs and figure out how to handle arrow combinations in those songs to maximise perfects. When you get your great count low or start AAing everything change your song set or include some harder ones in it.
If you use speed mods it also makes a difference. Play a song on 1x a couple of times and then up it to 1.5x. Your score will probably improve quite a bit. Anyway my PA on 1x is nothing much to speak of  but i've found those things helped me quite a bit.
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schweeneh
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| 504. Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:48 am Post subject: Crazy crossovers |
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I've been trying to learn how to do crossovers with limited success. I don't have a problem with    or similar steps, but I was just wondering how the pros handle patterns like  I believe it's called a spin. I do realize that if you start the pattern with your left foot then you don't have to spin. So, how do you guys do it, start with your left foot, spin or double step?? Thanks for your help. |
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Slowpoke
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| 505. Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Usually I would just say "this song has retarded steps" and play something else 
But if the steps before that sequence would allow me to comforably begin that sequence on my left foot (for instance, if my right foot is already on ) then that's how I'd try to do it. |
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PureBlue
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| 506. Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Ummm........
Can someone give me help on Wild Rush? I can A Dead End but I barely manage a D on Wild Rush.  |
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XxFriedRicexX
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| 507. Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Crazy crossovers |
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| schweeneh wrote: | | I've been trying to learn how to do crossovers with limited success. I don't have a problem with or similar steps, but I was just wondering how the pros handle patterns like I believe it's called a spin. I do realize that if you start the pattern with your left foot then you don't have to spin. So, how do you guys do it, start with your left foot, spin or double step?? Thanks for your help. |
Wait, I think I can help a little. I think this is when you gotta turn your body. Ok, if you can, read ahead. Since it's , turn your whole body to the left, place your left foot on and press with your right foot. Then, you can bring your left foot to and step on with your right foot. And you can turn your body one last time to the right and get with your left foot. Hope that helped.
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DDRDUDE651
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| 508. Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:33 am Post subject: |
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 HEYY I NEED HELP I HAVE THE DDR MAX 2 FOR PS2 AND I UNLOCKED ENDLESS MODE AND I CANT GET PAST THE 13 SONG IN LIGHT MODE CUS I GET WORN OUT! CAN YOU HELP?? |
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Jukebox Hero
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| 509. Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been playing songs on heavy for about a month or so and i can A about a handfull of ninefooters, EE, So deep, and R&P to name a few. There are some songs however i have some questions for, on a song like DaikenKai for example i have trouble, it seems i'm always running into instances where i have to double-step, also in End of Century, and Break down i have a similar problem, i can make it through the song with like a B or C but i'm always missing and double stepping. On those three songs(not so much Break Down) is it normal to double step? |
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Thomas Hobbes
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Takisho
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| 511. Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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What's a catastrophic? A 10 foot song?
And is double stepping where you hit 2 arrows in a row with the same foot? Is that bad? |
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| 512. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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A catastrophic, or Cata for short, is a 9 footer.
Double stepping isn't near as effective as Cross-overs, so it is probably worse, but i suppose its a matter of opinion.
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Corey | RanciD
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| 513. Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, that's double stepping. It's generally worse than doing a crossover but in some songs if you try to crossover everything you'll end up spinning (Healing Vision Angelic Mix for example). In those cases it's usually easier to just double step. |
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XxFriedRicexX
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Prowler
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| 515. Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| XxFriedRicexX wrote: | | What about double-stepping on the same arrow though? Like it's and the second one is an 8th step. That's not bad, is it? |
No, because that's the natural way to do it.
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Synpax
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| 516. Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I am new to DDR. I am getting a metal pad and ultramix for my Xbox / Xbox Live at home to practice for the arcade.
The reason I want to start is because not only is it something I'm not naturally good at at all, it is something in a field that I have never been good at ever (physical coordination). So I want to take something like this and try to master it. I also like the competitve aspect of it.
My question is what song should I practice on to get better. I would like a song available on both ultramix and in the arcade that features a good variety of maneuvers and is not too overwhelming. The arcades I am in usually have DDR Extreme.
Thanks in advance. |
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LazyAsian
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| 517. Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:37 am Post subject: |
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songs that are on extreme and ultramix (that i care to know of) is:
.59
sana morrette ne ente (it's probably written in japanese)
max 300
after the game of love (not sure but i think ive seen it on the arcade)
my suggestion is .59 standard b/c there seems to be a bit of jumping and small streams and is pretty fun to play (in my opinion)
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LAN040
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| 518. Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Chunochi wrote: | I suffer from Controller-itis
I can pass every song (on maniac and double and stuff) with the fingerpad , but when it comes to the actual stepping , I fail 
maybe coz i'm trying to pass Dead End Maniac 
I can do all Trick / Basic songs, but when it comes to Maniac , I fail .. -_-
except those slow songs 
any advice? o_o;;;
(EVEN THOUGH NONE OF THESE SONGS ARE ON DDRMAX, I figure it'd be good practice for when I get there  )
EDIT EDIT: Maybe this is a sign, saying I should become a freestyler! |
I think you should forget about the fingerpad and use the ORIGINAL dance pad that the game is supposed to be played on. If you have one of those cheap Naki pads or plastic ones, there is a link on this website that will take you to HOME MODDING. Also, you just might want to buy a metal pad like what I did. They work excellent  Good luck on the Heavy/Maniac songs! |
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runningwolf117
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| 519. Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
I really need help on Afronova Light. I swear if I can learn this song I can progress into standard mode. I have only been playing a few months and can only do four footers. (A better example, I can practically do B4U, Japan, La Senorita, and other four footers with my eyes closed) I read some wheres that Afronova is a good five footer to work on to progress on to standard. The problem is is that arrows come real fast and they get jumbled up in my mind, and arrows like these REALLY screw me up. I actually fell off the pad earlier today because of it. So anyone have any advice? I'm playing the arcade version so you know, and unfortunately I don't have the home version. |
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