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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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SpaceMan
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I can't find the ground solder point; it isn't right next to the buttons like the solder points for the 'hot' sides are, and the picture is too small to do any fine line tracing. Start by soldering the hot sides, those are easy, then look for the best solder point for the ground. You can even follow the line to the middle of the circuit board to see if there's a good place to solder to there. If all else fails, though, you could always solder right onto a button area because they're made of nice exposed copper.


But what are these "hot sides" you speak of? I don't understand..
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The 'hot' sides are the sides that aren't the ground. They're called 'hot' because, well, since the ground is everywhere else, the other side of each button is considered the side that activates it, and is thus hot. It doesn't quite make sense, but that's the way electrical engineers and electricians talk about it. I'm sorry. I tried to make it clear that the 'hot' sides meant the sides that aren't ground, and I didn't want to always say "the other sides," but I guess it wasn't clear enough.
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So, which side of the copper is which?

Ground/Direction .. It'd be helpful if someone can lable it. riiight.gif
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I'm finally gonna start making a metal pad E4.gif. But i just want to no if there is anyway to save some money cuz im saving up for some other games and stuff
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TwitchingMan wrote:
So, which side of the copper is which?

Ground/Direction .. It'd be helpful if someone can lable it. riiight.gif

Have you ever read my advice?
The sides that are connected to the sides of other buttons are the GROUND.
The sides that are all individual, not connected to other buttons, are NOT.
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i'm no electrician, but i can tell there aren't little exposed circles next to my buttons on the hot side. There is the copper button with green wire running from it to the black processing unit.
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You can also solder to the copper button area. Little circles somewhere along the lines are convenient, but not the ONLY place you can solder to.

Think electrically, people! A wire is a wire is a wire, and you can connect to it wherever you want*, whether it's a copper circle or a copper area or a component leg or whatever.

*as long as you connect it to the same section, not on the different side of a component or what have you. That would NOT be the same thing.

And if you need to know what a component is (because it seems like I'm giving a freaking electronics course in here), it's one of those things that stick out of the board.
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Like I said.. A picture would be nice..

All I need to do now is find the ground point and then I can finish up so I can test it.

Please, just a picture or something? I don't want to create any more of a fuss over something so silly.
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the ground part is ANYWHERE ALONG THE GROUND SECTION, not just one point on the entire controller. See, it's just the opposite side of the 'hot' sides - you can tell which one it is because it will be connected to the other buttons. An easy way to do it - rather than looking for a copper circle - would be to just solder to one half of a button area, because that stuff is nice exposed copper, too. I don't know why it takes so long. You should just do one minute of thinking and one minute of working to find it out.

*New EASY way to find the ground*
See the side that isn't the ground? You know which one that is, right? Well, the ground is the side that isn't the side that isn't the ground!

-anyways-

If you want me to mark the solder points on a picture for you, you will first need to give me a larger picture of the circuit board, $1, and the eternal right to call you "freaking lazy moron." So, just do it yourself.
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gee, someone seems antzy! the ground could be difficult for someone who doesn't know electronics well. Thankfully mine has a good contact point on the ground. My only issue now is which pad to build... I debating XEROX or DDRhomepad
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My point is that there isn't one point that is the ground - it's any point along the ground, and he seems to be asking where EXACTLY the ground is.
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Nevermind, I got it. -_-; .. Geez, I just asked were one ground point was where I could solder to. No need to make a huge fuss about it. So I did the upper 3 on the right hand side (More like accidentally melted them together, oh well.). It works.
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just started work on my DDR pad! Using a Modified Version of DDRhomepad. No railing whatsoever. solid wood though! will tell how its coming along. I've already modled the arrows to look and feel identicle to the Arcade and is as sensitive as a baby! should take me 2 or 3 more days before i'm done!
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I need to know what type of wire to use for ddrhomepads version, I tried finding telphone wire but the only telephone wire I could find was like the cord that connects your telephone reciever to your phone which is like the cord that goes like this -_-_-_-_-_-_- all squigly

help would be much appreciated, thats all I have left to do is wire it
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check radioshack for the phone wire... they sell spools of the stuff for cheap (without the ends)
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Remember, you will need at least five conductors (5 seperate wires) - most phone lines only have four.
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link

that link SHOULD work... if not, radioshack does carry 6 and 8 conductor phone cables... or just rip the ends off a network cable, so long as its not too long, the twist shouldn't matter...
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hi, first i apologize if my question has been answered in a previous post but i am currently stuck with a very slow dial-up and reading through all the posts takes a very long time. now on to my question.

i was testing an arrow and without the ground being used the arrow acted as though i was holding it down. i checked my wiring and noticed that once a wire touches any of the connectors other than the ground, the corresponding button reacts. is this normal? do all the connectors need to be wired for them to work properly? i'm at a total loss. i'd hate to give up so far into this project. any suggestions?

i hope my problem is clear enough to answer and i appreciate any help or advice i can get.

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Holy Crapola! I've created a madman!

My DDR pad seems to be solid enough! the only room for possible bending or breaking is where the weatherstripping is! the rest is solid! nice...

Not to mention, all i have left to do is basically wire it and cover the darned thing in sheet metal! *I am not using Stanley Brackets to hold it together, it is screws and boards. this thing is SOLID! will post pics of it completed.

Day1-figuring out exactly how we are gonna use aluminum on the pad-made first Arrow, tested contact and it is sweeet.

Day 2-Made other three Arrows, Silicon II drying, made 5 non-arronw panels.*Today.

Day 3-Put all the panels together, wire it, test it. Then begin to Cover it with Flashing.

Day 4-Will probably be done day 3, but if not we will finish it up mmm... Metal Dance Pad....
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tolookah wrote:
TwitchingMan wrote:
Sorry for posting again, and after several pads that I've built, I should know this, but .. Where is the ground point on this circuit board?



I hacked off the L and R buttons just so I can lay it down flat when putting it all together, plus it's be a lot easier to solder on.

Thanks in advance.[/img]


have you checked the bottom of my site for finding grounds? (link is in my sig)

Can someone post the picture up with the solder points and all. I also need it, I will need it in one day. I also need to know about the Foam Core. Is it hard or soft and spongy?
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