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Promit
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1220.  Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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My Vortz pads arrived today. I have nothing to add to what's been said, so I'm simply going to quote the review that convinced me to buy the pads, despite an inherent distrust of eBay and eBay sellers. Vortz sent me EXACTLY what I bought, and it works perfectly. This review also links to an earlier review with pictures. It's the exact same thing, and completely, totally worth it. I'm only playing on the PS2 though, not XBox or PC.
| Duvdev wrote: | I finally got my pads in today, and as promised I am letting you know how they are. I bidded on two of the Vortz v3.0 pads on ebay for a grand total of $54.98 for the two pads and shipping.
I will give my review in the same format as ddrwannabbe123 (if he doesn't mind  ) because it works, and I don't want to make something up. I have only opened one pad so far, and I might be comparing this pad side by side with a friend's RO ignition pad sometime with week, so I will update.
Also note that I am using the pad on an xbox running stepmania using the Game-Elements Gemini controller adapter from Walmart.
Review for $54.98 Vorts pads (2) + $10 Game-Elements Gemini controller converter (1)
Price: I think this is a killer deal because this is the lowest price I have seen anywhere for two new ignition pads.
Shipping: About half of the price for the pads($24.99) is shipping, which I think is ridiculous, but most ebay shipping is crazy anyway. I won the bid and paid for the pads last Tuesday night, and they arrived today (Monday). I guess the shipping was fast enough for ground, but Fedex has listed the package as being on the truck for delivery ever since Saturday, which kinda made me anxious. But enough with the shipping. Just know that it gets there within a week.
Packaging: The packaging is the exact same as the stuff I saw in the pictures in Ezzelin's post (found here). But, the pads also come with a small package with some stupid instructions written in Engrish (my favorite being, "Young children must be guided to us it or need parents and teachers to accompany, in case to be tumbled by it"). Included are 4 small disks which are sticky on both sides when the paper is removed. The Instructions say to put one in each corner, but I haven't done this yet. The pad is stable enough on my carpet. Also note that the pads strongly smell of new shoes. It isn't that bad since I have the fan going in my room, but I will be curious as to how long it stays around.
Assembly: As easy as any other ignition pad, though I have never assembled one. The three pieces of foam fit together, and it zips together easily enough, though it is a tight fit.
| ddrwannabbe123 wrote: | | Ok, by this time you are probably like "C'mon you stupid moron talk about the mat." So I will. |
Sensitivity: I am gonna go with the exact same thing ddrwannabbe123 said about the BNS, "The pad seems to be sensitive so you don't have to stop but that doesn't mean you can set your toe and it will sense it." I will say that it was much better than my old naki soft mat (even though I was getting pretty good with it). The only annoyance I have is that it is kinda annoying going through the song wheel on the pad, but it could be because I am either used to my soft pad or it hasn't had proper break in.
Mat "feel": It feels alright to me. The raised arrows are very nice, and the non-raised areas have a fluffly feel to them from the cover. I haven't played on my friend's RO in about a week, but the pad feels just a bit different from the RO from what I can remember, but I think this is just due to not having been broken in (my friend and his brother play cata's and stuff on their RO pads for atleast an hour daily).
Performance: Excellent so far. I double AA'ed my first song on it, and got A's and B's playing songs on standard and a few on hard. I also played the first few songs barefoot which I never did on my soft mat because it would stick to my feet, but the Vortz pad gave me no problems barefoot. When I put on socks it felt a little better, but I never felt like I was going to slip or fall (except when I got off balance  )
I didn't do any measuring, but from eyeballing my PS2 cord lengths, I would say the Vortz pad is anywhere from 3/4ths to the same length of a standard PS2 cord, but mine is a bit longer because of the converter.
Sliding and Bunching: No bunching or sliding at all. I was playing standards (breakdown, tsugaru) and some 7-8 heavys (cowgirl, kick the can) on a carpet.
Converter: I added this one, but I am using the Game-Elements Gemini converter. I got this from Walmart for only $10. It is working perfectly as far as I can tell. All jumps are hitting and there is no lag. The only bad thing is that I have to go to another Walmart sometime this week (which sucks IMO) to get another one since there was only one left when I got mine yesterday.
Overall: I will recommend these pads to everyone I know who plays DDR. For $54.98 for two pads of very similar quality to RO Ignition 2.0's (so far from what I can tell), this is a very good deal. I have hopes that these pads will last for quite a while since my month old soft pad is still working well, and I can't do crazy 9 or 10 foot songs right now, but I will keep you updated. Also, I hope to compare these pads to my friend's ROs, and I will go unpack and test the other pad after I finish up reading some history.
Also, thanks for recommending these pads to me, vsamaco! Sorry for the long post too! |
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ddr://sk8er
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| 1221. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject: Please Help Me! |
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PLEASE HELP ME! I bought DDR Max 2 for ps2 and I bought a pad for Gamestop. It is a Dance Pad Revolution 2 by Instict. It's a pretty good pad and stuff( quick question, what are those 4 white circular things it comes with? I hope it doesnt have to do with my problem!) but any way I started to play it in my room which is carpeted but then my parents told me to take it into the basement( which is concrete  ), so I was cool with it, but a few days ago the down button wasn't working so well, like it was in between the center and the down arrow. I just couldn't get used to it, so I bravely decided to unscrew the top and very carefully I stuck my hand in their tried pushing it back and I put the screws pack on then I started to play then the x, square, left, down buttons don't work. That was yesterday, today I played and now just the square button dousn't work! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!
Just give me some suggestions or opinions on what I should do...
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ddr://sk8er
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| 1222. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: Please Help Me! |
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PLEASE HELP ME! I bought DDR Max 2 for ps2 and I bought a pad for Gamestop. It is a Dance Pad Revolution 2 by Instict. It's a pretty good pad and stuff( quick question, what are those 4 white circular things it comes with? I hope it doesnt have to do with my problem!) but any way I started to play it in my room which is carpeted but then my parents told me to take it into the basement, so I was cool with it, but a few days ago the down button wasn't working so well, like it was in between the center and the down arrow. I just couldn't get used to it, so I bravely decided to unscrew the top and very carefully I stuck my hand in their tried pushing it back and I put the screws pack on then I started to play then the x, square, left, down buttons don't work. That was yesterday, today I played and now just the square button dousn't work! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!
Just give me some suggestions or opinions on what I should do...
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drugzandduzz
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| 1223. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Dang, i just got a softpad and the right arrow dont work. it only works when i use my hands to play. anyone kno how to fix this?
plz dont tell me to get metal pad or new soft pad. i dont have money to buy a new one. after all, im paying for collage.
LOL same here DDR//
but my right arrow is mess up. damn i should of bought this pad . same one that mess up after 8 time i bought it. anyway, im going for that beat pad the one that looks like ultramix one. the universal pad. heeh at best buy its 19.99 at gamestop its 30.00
the right arrow works when
then i select songs with my hands but with foot , it dont work when i play.
hm... i tore the pad open one time and the wire or whatever was stuck between the other arrows. then the pad works fine , but it was hardder to play since u wont be using a nonslip pad anymore.
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TrueFlog
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| 1224. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, guys!
I'm looking for advice on what type of pad to purchase for home play. Having read most of this topic, I've narrowed my choices down to two options. The first is to purchase an ignition-style pad (specifically, the BNS DX) and play it un-modded. The other is to buy a cheap pad (most likely the Naki DPR2) and mod it with something similar to the Tommy Gun.
My main concerns in making this decision are responsiveness and longevity. I want a pad/modification that will give me accurate steps as I play so that my (soon-to-be) l337 skillz are not wasted. Also, I want to have confidence that my setup will last me a reasonable length of time. Will a modded cheap pad be able to out-perform and out-last a nice ignition? Does anyone know if the DPR2 carries any form of a warranty?
Also, for what it's worth, I can purchase the DPR2 at my local Gamestop for $20 (plus the cost of modding) and process any returns/warranties through them. With the BNS, I'd have to purchase online for about $65 ($50 for the pad + $15 for shipping), and any warranties would have to handeled over the phone or e-mail.
If any of you have any experience with the aforementioned pads, I'd appreciate and advice you may have.
Thanks,
The Inedible, Credible Flog
PS I'll be playing on my PC, so I'm also looking for a PS2 to USB adapter. I know I can purchase one online, but I'd prefer to buy it locally and avoid shipping costs. Do any of y'all know of any stores that carry them?
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drugzandduzz
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| 1225. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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psh dont get that pad dude. even if u modd it, it still going to mess up . bc the light on the side just turned off after i bought it 3 days ago.
i stoped playing then 20 mins later it dont work. well the right arrow doesnt any way.
psh and the manager at gamestop says even though its cheap, its best. ya, best being a fukin cigarette. |
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vsamaco
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| 1226. Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| TrueFlog wrote: | Hey, guys!
I'm looking for advice on what type of pad to purchase for home play. Having read most of this topic, I've narrowed my choices down to two options. The first is to purchase an ignition-style pad (specifically, the BNS DX) and play it un-modded. The other is to buy a cheap pad (most likely the Naki DPR2) and mod it with something similar to the Tommy Gun.
My main concerns in making this decision are responsiveness and longevity. I want a pad/modification that will give me accurate steps as I play so that my (soon-to-be) l337 skillz are not wasted. Also, I want to have confidence that my setup will last me a reasonable length of time. Will a modded cheap pad be able to out-perform and out-last a nice ignition? Does anyone know if the DPR2 carries any form of a warranty?
Also, for what it's worth, I can purchase the DPR2 at my local Gamestop for $20 (plus the cost of modding) and process any returns/warranties through them. With the BNS, I'd have to purchase online for about $65 ($50 for the pad + $15 for shipping), and any warranties would have to handeled over the phone or e-mail.
If any of you have any experience with the aforementioned pads, I'd appreciate and advice you may have.
Thanks,
The Inedible, Credible Flog
PS I'll be playing on my PC, so I'm also looking for a PS2 to USB adapter. I know I can purchase one online, but I'd prefer to buy it locally and avoid shipping costs. Do any of y'all know of any stores that carry them? |
I know definitely an ignition pad will last longer than a cheap pad, but may have same life if cheap pad is modded. You'd prob spend the same amount for materials to mod a cheap pad anyways. I'd would definitely invest in an ignition pad over a cheap pad if ya like ddr.
With that said, it looks like the internet would be the only option to get an ignition pad. The major brands are RedOctane, BuyNshop, and Mymybox. These pads have very respectable quality but very in cost. BuyNShop is the cheapest brand at $49 and shipping while RO and MMB go for $100. RO does offer a longer warranty, 60days, but $100 is steep. There are third party ignition pads i.e. levelsix.com, cypherpads, and ebay. These pads don't differ much except some of the pads has "soft" foam rather than "hard foam" (feels much better). If your comfortable with ebay, there is x2 vortzgame ignition v3.0 has "hard" foam for $40. The dealer is very respectable as well as the pads. So there are suggestion about where to get ignition pads. If you just don't have the cash, then non ignition pad like DPR2 is decent.
Here is a list of compatible adapters. Unfortunately, I don't think local retailers will a compatible adapter for PC, so your option would be online unfortunately. The cheapest adapter, the printer port, goes for $6.00 on BNS for free shipping, but only works for one pad. BNS and RO offer the super dual box for $17-20 + shipping and ebay vortzgames super dualbox go for $6-8. Levelsix.com also offers adapters. The shipping for these products isn't very much ($4-7).
I hope that helps.
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boardpusher2002
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| 1227. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| i have to say when i got my level six ignition it smelled like plastic really bad too. after about a day it goes away so i guess that is just normal for those pads. |
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Promit
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| 1228. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| I forgot to add...I got my first Heavy AA ever the same day I switched from Mad Catz to Vortz pads. |
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Raloth
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| 1229. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty new to the DDR world (1 1/2 months to be exact). A few days ago I decided to graduate to heavy since I had an A or AA on all of the standards. I was doing pretty well on my first song...and then I ran into the wall. The pad that came bundled with the game just slides too much for me.
Back when I (ok, my sister) got the game I bought another pad so we could both play together. It was the worst thing I have ever bought. It literally floats off the ground about an inch and makes anything past light impossible, not to mention the fact that it would probably slide 20 feet if the cable was long enough.
So, after seeing someone double A Max 300 on heavy at Great America yesterday, I've decided to give in and buy an ignition pad. I am so confused! I've scanned this thread and can't find a definitive answer on which to buy. Is the extra $50 for the RedOctane over the BNS worth it, or am I better off just buying two BNSs (one for me and one for my sister)? |
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vsamaco
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| 1230. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Raloth wrote: | I'm pretty new to the DDR world (1 1/2 months to be exact). A few days ago I decided to graduate to heavy since I had an A or AA on all of the standards. I was doing pretty well on my first song...and then I ran into the wall. The pad that came bundled with the game just slides too much for me.
Back when I (ok, my sister) got the game I bought another pad so we could both play together. It was the worst thing I have ever bought. It literally floats off the ground about an inch and makes anything past light impossible, not to mention the fact that it would probably slide 20 feet if the cable was long enough.
So, after seeing someone double A Max 300 on heavy at Great America yesterday, I've decided to give in and buy an ignition pad. I am so confused! I've scanned this thread and can't find a definitive answer on which to buy. Is the extra $50 for the RedOctane over the BNS worth it, or am I better off just buying two BNSs (one for me and one for my sister)? |
If you want 2 ignition pad for the best price, check out vortzgame ignition v3.0 on ebay for $40. Actual pictures of it are here by ezzelin and review here by duvdev. I've suggested these pads to many people here and those who got it were very satisfied. It has the same foam BNS and RO pads but surface resemble that of Mymybox. The seller is very reliable and the pads are new.
If you really don't trust ebay, I would go with a BNS over RO. Both of these pads have pretty good quality, so BNS would be the better buy.
I can assure you, vortzgame seller will not rip you off, and is the best buy for an ignition pad(s) on the market. I'm not an affliliate with the seller, but the price is just unbeatable to any other vendor how can I not suggest it? I'd buy one myself when my ignition pads die (I hope they don't soon). |
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Raloth
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| 1231. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, they look great! The two diagonal arrows function as the X and O buttons, correct? And will they work with DDR Extreme when it comes out?
[edit] That "non-slip foam" stuff on the bottom of them is the very thing that makes the one I bought earlier slip around so much. It's mostly because it's not actually attached to the upper half, just around the edges, so I don't know if these will have the same problem. |
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HitokiriX
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| 1232. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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okay jus for clarity:
if you mod a pad, i think the warranty automatically expires. all products who have warranties become null and void if you do anythin to it besides normal usage. |
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vsamaco
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| 1233. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Raloth wrote: | Thanks, they look great! The two diagonal arrows function as the X and O buttons, correct? And will they work with DDR Extreme when it comes out?
[edit] That "non-slip foam" stuff on the bottom of them is the very thing that makes the one I bought earlier slip around so much. It's mostly because it's not actually attached to the upper half, just around the edges, so I don't know if these will have the same problem. |
Yes they function as X and O and should work for Extreme.
| HitokiriX wrote: | okay jus for clarity:
if you mod a pad, i think the warranty automatically expires. all products who have warranties become null and void if you do anythin to it besides normal usage. |
I don't recall a mod that modifies the external or internal structure of a soft pad or ignition pad. If you did do the chair mod to an ignition pad, a pad is place on top of it and its duct tape to the board, so there nothing permanent done to the pad. But you would be right if a mod that does changes, enhances, or reduces the normal function or structure of the pad permanently, it will void the warranty. After the warranty, then you can have a free for all with your pad. I doubt duct tape would void the warranty, as long you are able to pull it off and make it unnoticeable  |
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HitokiriX
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| 1234. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| i don't know what taping an ignition pad to a board will do any different than taping the pad to the floor |
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Promit
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| 1235. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Raloth wrote: | | [edit] That "non-slip foam" stuff on the bottom of them is the very thing that makes the one I bought earlier slip around so much. It's mostly because it's not actually attached to the upper half, just around the edges, so I don't know if these will have the same problem. |
My Vortz pads got here yesterday. "My review" is at the top of this page. In any case, the non-slip doesn't do a whole lot, but the fact that each pad weighs 7 pounds does  |
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Duvdev
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| 1236. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Glad the pads are working for you, Promit, and I'm glad I didn't waste my time writing the review! My pads are still working just fine, but the smell has gone away. Last weekend, I took a pad to a friends house, and we had 5 people playing till 5 in the morning on a RO and a Vortz.
From what everyone could tell, the Vortzpads and the RO pads were identical, except the RO has a different cover. Also, we noticed that the foam in the Vortz pad was a little thicker, but I believe this is due to the newness of the pad. RO pads are solid buys, but the Vortzpads wins because of the price.
Sadly though, I passed my first 9 footer (tsugaru, heavy) today at my friend's on one of his RO pads.  |
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Raloth
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| 1237. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Promit wrote: | | My Vortz pads got here yesterday. "My review" is at the top of this page. In any case, the non-slip doesn't do a whole lot, but the fact that each pad weighs 7 pounds does |
Do the other ignition pads have the same "non-slip foam" stuff on the bottom of them? I'm just a little paranoid about it, seeing as how it completely ruined the last one I bought. |
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vsamaco
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| 1238. Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| HitokiriX wrote: | | i don't know what taping an ignition pad to a board will do any different than taping the pad to the floor |
Well there is a chair mat on top of the pad thats helping it not move. The tape isn't doing all the work in holding the pad to the board. |
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Wolfman Jake
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| 1239. Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| I appologize in advance if this has been asked and answered many times before, but do people bother to modify Ignition 2.0 pads as they do the cheapo pads (i.e. mounting on plywood)? My official Konami soft pad, the one that came with DDRMAX 2 US, has finally started breaking down, doing phantom steps to the point where passing Oni's is a dice roll. It did last for about 8 months of playing with shoes on. I mount my pads on a form-fitting piece of 3/4 inch thick plywood. I screwed down the top of an old mat and lay new mats with rubber bottoms on top, then cover the whole thing in a clear plastic curtain that is screwed securely into the bottom. Would it be worth it to do this with an Ignition pad? Would the pad really last any longer? I was sorely tempted to pick up a RedOctane yesterday as I was shopping around. They have them stocked at my local game stores. Else I'm just going to go for an el cheapo pad again and save $85, heh. Any suggestions are most appreciated. Thanks! |
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