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zero2dash
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1101.  Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| vsamaco wrote: | There used to be exact RO metal pads be sold, I don't see any for sale right now. The RO reseller will show the exact picture, any other picture claiming to be RO, is a clone and may not have the same features. I'd check out these seller/product:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3089358266&rd=1
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3088868638&rd=1
Note, these are clones. I have no knowledge about the long-term quality of either of these products. I picked out these products for their features. I'd contact these dealers for more info. Don't worry about winning an auction, there are more rotated each week, so take your time and research the different sellers and their products.
I'm not too sure about the material of a RO or BNS, but it should be very similar despite the different looks.
The features I was listing were for metal pads below a CF. Cobalt flux is just a better build. Unlike other pads, it can withstand a SUV. While typical pads support up to 300 pds. |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3088868638&rd=1
These pad are not clone. They are the exact of the Red Octance in circuity, design and make but without the Red OCtane Logo brand. They have poly carbon arrow panel (to tell the different between poly carbon and hard acrylic: poly carbon arrow panel plasitc are more transparent whereas the hard acrylic plastic are a bid cloudy. Poly carbon arrows panel can easily flex without breaking wheras as if you try to flex or bend the hard acryllic panel .. it will snap.) They uses the same control box adapters for the Playstation, PS2, XBox and PC as the Red Octane. |
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sematary
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| 1103. Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Well, I have read about 60% of these pages, and haven't really found a definate answer so...
I am saving up for a RO metal pad. I have had good experience with RO before, and I know that saving up for a CF will take WAY too long. (I am 12, with a very very small budget, so all I can do for money is babysitting and little jobs around the house.)
Once I get the pad, I was wondering which mods are definitally necesarry, because I only want to do what I have to, the reason being I have no experience with any of this type of stuff, and don't want to screw up my pad
Thanks a bunch!
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cockmaster 2000
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| 1104. Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:56 am Post subject: |
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I've got an awesome mod going based off of a MyMyBox version 2.5 pad. I'll post pictures of it when it's up.
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vsamaco
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| 1105. Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Not only are previous few pages useful to read, the first post is also helpful. There it list the mods and links for metal pads. Example sheet metal mod: http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html
Thats the only mod I did for my pad. The website also list minor tweaks you can do to for metal pads. |
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sematary
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| 1106. Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| vsamaco wrote: | Not only are previous few pages useful to read, the first post is also helpful. There it list the mods and links for metal pads. Example sheet metal mod: http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html
Thats the only mod I did for my pad. The website also list minor tweaks you can do to for metal pads. |
Um, who was that directed towards?
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Kinglink
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| 1107. Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to request some assistance from you fine folks. Now First of I'm quite skilled at DDR I've gone through two soft pads and normally play at 6-7 footers. I think my problem with the soft pads are shody quality and over use (I play once a day for at least an hour.) Is A hard pad the way to go?
Now I don't have 300 dollars and won't be able to save up for that, plus I required a pad now if possible. So if you can bear that in mind.
I'm considering going on Ebay to get one. I just wish to find out your opinion of this strategy, 150 is definatly possible for me, 200 is harder to consider.
I see that poly-carbonated pads are better then the others so I'm assuming that these pads will last long. So for those who have purchased such pads from ebay is there anything I should watch for? About how long are they good for? I don't want to buy these "better" pads and have them last only a month (the length of my last soft pads "durablilty"
I'm assuming the following.
- They are close to the same size as Soft pads.
- They are managable weight but substancial (45 pounds I hear)
- For 150 including shipping I can get a decent pad that will last at least half a year if not more.
I basically have two major questions. Do I have to screw them together every time I play or can I lean it up against the wall when I'm not using it? Are they easy to move around? And is there something you can advise me against or is there a pad you prefer on ebay? Any real life experience will be appreciated.
And btw I bought my soft pads from Judydeals on ebay and they sent it to the wrong address twice so I doubtful will jump to go to hers, but I will if it honestly is cheaper or higher quality.
Any other advice I get I appreciate. I've read a bit here but still am not sure which way to go.
Also for mods if I should do one please do not suggest one that includes soldering I don't have the tools or skill for it. Also any mod that costs a lot is unlikely to happen, I've only played on the soft pads for the last two years so "unnatural feel" is a joke for me. I'm just looking for exercise and durability.
Arigato in advance. |
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zero2dash
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| 1108. Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Kinglink wrote: | | I'd like to request some assistance from you fine folks. Now First of I'm quite skilled at DDR I've gone through two soft pads and normally play at 6-7 footers. I think my problem with the soft pads are shody quality and over use (I play once a day for at least an hour.) Is A hard pad the way to go? |
Yes, it's definitely the way to go if you're serious about playing DDR at home and you play it at home a fair amount of the time. I can only speak from experience, but my home play was capped near 7 footers on Heavy because the pads sucked. Once I moved to arcade playing regularly, now I'm up to 9s easy and I've passed quite a few 10s. I guess my best sum up would be...you're only as good as the pad you play on.  Take that with a grain of salt though, I don't mean anyone sucks if they own anything cheaper than a CF. 
| Kinglink wrote: | Now I don't have 300 dollars and won't be able to save up for that, plus I required a pad now if possible. So if you can bear that in mind.
I'm considering going on Ebay to get one. I just wish to find out your opinion of this strategy, 150 is definatly possible for me, 200 is harder to consider. |
I bought my BNS metal pad off eBay for $100 ($40 cheaper than if I bought it from BNS directly on their online store); I'm 100% happy with my purchase. A trouble and hassle-free purchase on eBay. Note that the seller I bought mine from, discount-auction, no longer sells BNS pads, but instead some other 3rd party metal pad. I've heard through here at DDR Freak that his new metal pads suck. When I go to buy a 2nd metal pad, I'm going to buy it from BNS directly.
| Kinglink wrote: | | I see that poly-carbonated pads are better then the others so I'm assuming that these pads will last long. So for those who have purchased such pads from ebay is there anything I should watch for? About how long are they good for? I don't want to buy these "better" pads and have them last only a month (the length of my last soft pads "durablilty" |
1) Only get poly carb arrows.
2) Mod the pads with sheet metal; follow the MyMyBox mod but be alerted that you may have to cut your sheet metal squares to a smaller dimension; I cut mine shorter for my BNS pad.
3) How long will they last? Well, I have no idea. I play in the arcades a million times more than I play at home, so my home metal pad is a backup for the few times I do play at home. I've said it before and it still is true...take care of your pad and it will take care of you. People say they clean their copper contacts of their metal pads every few months and they're still goin' strong. I can't see why a metal pad, taken care of properly, could last forever *if* (big if) you know how to fix it if it breaks.
My soft pads have lasted over 3 years, the only problem with either of them is the plastic on the bottom of the main one I used to use has now torn and it sorta hangs between the pad and my particle board. Still works though. My thought off this is that if my flimsy plastic pads can last over 3 years, then there's no reason my metal pad won't last equally as long. (That's me though; I take care of all my gaming equipment.)
| Kinglink wrote: | I'm assuming the following.
- They are close to the same size as Soft pads.
- They are managable weight but substancial (45 pounds I hear)
- For 150 including shipping I can get a decent pad that will last at least half a year if not more.
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1) Arcade and *most* metal pads (at least all of those that I've heard of) are the same size; plastic pads are smaller than both.
2) Most pads weigh around 40-50 lbs, yes.
3) Depending upon where you get the pad and what they charge for shipping...yes and no. It's possible. See above: re how long they last.
| Kinglink wrote: | | I basically have two major questions. Do I have to screw them together every time I play or can I lean it up against the wall when I'm not using it? Are they easy to move around? And is there something you can advise me against or is there a pad you prefer on ebay? Any real life experience will be appreciated. |
No, you don't screw them together every time you want to play, the pad should already be put together and stay that way. Disassembling a pad isn't a good idea whatsoever unless you're throwing sheet metal in it or cleaning the contacts; I'd never completely disassemble any pad in any fashion because you're opening up a larger risk that you'll put it back together either wrong or you'll damage it while putting it back together and then you've got a busted pad. Is a metal pad easy to move around? Well, my BNS pad takes two hands but it's not that heavy; not much more heavy than a soft pad on particle board with floor protector. Yes, you can lean it up against a wall when you're done; a lot of people put them in a closet or under their bed (if they have a large bed), mine's in my closet. I can only recommend BNS pads from experience but RO pads are similar in build and quality so I'm sure those are good as well. RO pads have a more safe customer service line also, I've heard BNS has like zero customer service, so, if that's a concern, buy a pad from someplace you can feel trustworthy with.
| Kinglink wrote: | Also for mods if I should do one please do not suggest one that includes soldering I don't have the tools or skill for it. Also any mod that costs a lot is unlikely to happen, I've only played on the soft pads for the last two years so "unnatural feel" is a joke for me. I'm just looking for exercise and durability.
Arigato in advance. |
Sheet metal mod should cost you between $15-$30 depending upon what tools you have and need. I myself had to buy everything; I think my total bill at Home Depot was around $25. That is including the sheet metal piece, the tin snips to cut it out, duct tape to affix it. If you already have the tin snips and the duct tape you're looking at between $10-$15 for the sheet metal. I bought thicker sheet metal than the mod specifies for because Home Depot didn't carry the smaller gauge; works just as good, it's just a little thicker. Doesn't affect the pad in any way whatsoever though. The mod involves using tin snips to cut square pieces of the sheet metal, which are then duct taped to the bottom of the arrows, and then you put the mat back together. No soldering required in any way.
Good luck
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| 1110. Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Is it easy to push the metal pad into your bed or to stack it up against your closet wall? It seems pretty hard since it's 40-50 lbs.. How hard is it to push it against your bed or lift it to your closet wall?
And I have a tile floor so will it sccratch the floor?
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cockmaster 2000
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| 1111. Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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It's an OK pad. Personally, I would hold out for something a little more expensive. Try looking for ones that are thicker and don't have the connections exposed on the bottom.
| vsamaco wrote: | Not only are previous few pages useful to read, the first post is also helpful. There it list the mods and links for metal pads. Example sheet metal mod: http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html
Thats the only mod I did for my pad. The website also list minor tweaks you can do to for metal pads. |
If that was directed towards me, it's not necessarily a mod like that, it's more of taking apart my MMB2 (like the version 2.5 from GEC without the extension behind the back arrow) and installing a trick bar, better contacts, 30 gauge sheet metal to replace the foil, wooden frame to make it more arcade-like, stuff like that.[/url]
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vsamaco
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| 1112. Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the misunderstanding mck.
Dancing disaster, so sorry you live in the UK  in the text of limited choices. In comparison to decent metal pads, those aren't that awesome and prob break more easily due to its build. You should wait until the better metal pads reach your part of the world. Or you could get a www.cobaltflux.com top of the line, $350+ |
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Kinglink
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| 1113. Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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looks like no one wants to yell at Zero2Dash so thanks for the information. I am likely to order the BNS and wait. I did go to the HomeDepot today and purchase the necessary supplys for the mmb mod. thanks.
And btw I read through a couple of these pages  So much information about these pads.
If it matters I'm definatly a Home player. I basically use it for exercise and all, but if anyone knows of a good/cheap arcade in Boston, MA (or close to the T) I'd be interested in finding one.
Anyways Thanks for the info, I'm likely to be back and thank you all again when I get the pads. |
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| 1114. Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Kinglink wrote: | looks like no one wants to yell at Zero2Dash so thanks for the information. I am likely to order the BNS and wait. I did go to the HomeDepot today and purchase the necessary supplys for the mmb mod. thanks.
And btw I read through a couple of these pages So much information about these pads.
If it matters I'm definatly a Home player. I basically use it for exercise and all, but if anyone knows of a good/cheap arcade in Boston, MA (or close to the T) I'd be interested in finding one.
Anyways Thanks for the info, I'm likely to be back and thank you all again when I get the pads. |
If you haven't already, goto ddrfreak homepage and click Machine Location and put in city,state/zip. There were several locations in your area but they were all for $1.00  |
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whitewulfe
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| 1115. Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I've looked through a few of the pages, and hoping I haven't repeated a question...
Are CF pads compatible with PIU (PC) thru USB adapters?
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| 1117. Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| these are cheap, metal pads that won't last very long. My friend just got one last month, he's a beginner, but now he's on standard. He says it's starting to break down already. I suggest if you are a beginner, get an ignition pad, then when you need it, a CF, which is the best pad you can get. You can get one of these pads, and you'll have to mod it. |
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| 1118. Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:15 pm Post subject: buying metal pad |
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| So a modded Red Octane is the next best thing to a CF? |
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sexualsoybean
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| 1119. Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| chaos stepz wrote: | | these are cheap, metal pads that won't last very long. My friend just got one last month, he's a beginner, but now he's on standard. He says it's starting to break down already. I suggest if you are a beginner, get an ignition pad, then when you need it, a CF, which is the best pad you can get. You can get one of these pads, and you'll have to mod it. |
How is it starting to break down?
And did your friend mod it?
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