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vsamaco
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1080. PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sexualsoybean wrote:
Hmm, there's another pad for the same price? Which one is better? The one by JudysDeal or Discount-Aunction


Discount-auction in the past used to sell what they advertised. It was a BNS clone. Currenlty, they are selling the TX1000 Metal Arcade pad seen here:
http://www.keepgaming.com/ddr/505-01046.htm

Not polycarbon. The different screw design is actually helpful. Only have to take out 4 screws vs. 14+ whaeva the number is. The arrow panels have a smaller cut corner, so normal arrow replacement wouldn't fit securely. I'm glad I got it at a price cheaper than other retailers and its works fine after the mod. If judysdeal is polycarbon, I would of bought their pad.
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Heh, this is not much of a helpful post, but on that same site you listed, click the "Dance dance revolution pads" link, and look at the 2nd metal pad (with the bar)

Reg. Price: $199.99
Sale Price: $199.99
Availability: In Stock

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I played on a CypherGames pad at Fry's the other day. It was ok, but it was certainly no CobaltFlux (which I have at home). I tore the poopy out of my feet, too, which doesn't happen at home as well.
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i don't think that the cobaltflux pad would hurt less on your feet than any other pad would. mayb just the screws but then that would mean that u have problems aiming. blink.gif also wearing shoes helps too. resonse sure is different between them though...... laugh.gif
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Well, I don't wear shoes at home because being able to slide easier helps. Plus, I have BIG feet, and wearing shoes ends up costing me steps on a regular basis.

That said, I was forced to remove my shoes at Fry's, and the CypherGames pad just chewed them up. I simply don't have that problem at home. I'm glad I saved up some extra money for the CF. Now if they'd just release an Xbox control box!
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that sounds reasonable.....although i don't know how ur feet could be so big that they take up the entire arrow, and u should be on ur toes while playing anywayz. it makes it easier to move in standard(trick) and heavy(maniac)
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I really want a metal pad but I don't have alot of money to spend, can anyone tell me if this is worth purchasing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3090698042&rd=1
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i don't think it's that good but i can't find much for xbox
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nolifeking wrote:
I really want a metal pad but I don't have alot of money to spend, can anyone tell me if this is worth purchasing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3090698042&rd=1


Given that the arrows are polycarbon yes. Now if the Xbox plug wasn't needed, there is supposely another pad for $99 sold by judysdeal that states its polycarbon. The arrows of either of these dealer have yet to be confirmed. I can confirm that metal pad by discount-auction seller isn't polycarbon.
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Nobody responded to the first time I posted this so I'm going to post this again. My friend could really use an answer because it is a bit of a concern.

My friend recently got a BNS metal pad and the lights on the up arrow start to dim after being pressed for a while and sometimes some of them don't light up at all. It doesn't affect the responsiveness of the pad, but he'd like to know if this is a normal thing to happen and if there is any way to fix it? Thanks.


P.S. We have taken the pad apart and put it together again and can't seem to get it completely straight sometimes. Could this possibly be contributing the the weird way the LCD lights have been reacting?
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I also gonna repost a question cuz i desperate.


I have a problem with my red octane metal pad and I can even fix it with one lil' piece of information from some one else who ownes a RO pad.

I accidently stepped on the part that plugs the pad into the cotrol box. this broke that grey plastic part open and knocked loose some of the wires on the inside. I need to know which wires go where.

Here is what I got still connected:

Pink ____ ____ Red White
___ ____ ____ Blue/Purple _____
___ ____ Green Brown Black

Can any other RO metal pad owners help me by opening up that grey plastic piece (COnnects the pad to the control box, just need to unscrew to screws) and posting the wire configuration? PLEASE!
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MJSi24 wrote:
Nobody responded to the first time I posted this so I'm going to post this again. My friend could really use an answer because it is a bit of a concern.

My friend recently got a BNS metal pad and the lights on the up arrow start to dim after being pressed for a while and sometimes some of them don't light up at all. It doesn't affect the responsiveness of the pad, but he'd like to know if this is a normal thing to happen and if there is any way to fix it? Thanks.


P.S. We have taken the pad apart and put it together again and can't seem to get it completely straight sometimes. Could this possibly be contributing the the weird way the LCD lights have been reacting?


Either some of the lights are dead or the power supply isn't insufficent. What port are you using? PS2? or printer port for comp? Printer port doesnt supply the same amount of power as the PS2, making the lights on pads very dim. I wouldn't worry about it as long as pad still works.
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Dur'rian wrote:
I also gonna repost a question cuz i desperate.


I have a problem with my red octane metal pad and I can even fix it with one lil' piece of information from some one else who ownes a RO pad.

I accidently stepped on the part that plugs the pad into the cotrol box. this broke that grey plastic part open and knocked loose some of the wires on the inside. I need to know which wires go where.

Here is what I got still connected:

Pink ____ ____ Red White
___ ____ ____ Blue/Purple _____
___ ____ Green Brown Black

Can any other RO metal pad owners help me by opening up that grey plastic piece (COnnects the pad to the control box, just need to unscrew to screws) and posting the wire configuration? PLEASE!


Srory, I don't have an RO metal pad, but did you try calling tech support? RO Tech support should be able to help.
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vsamaco wrote:
MJSi24 wrote:
Nobody responded to the first time I posted this so I'm going to post this again. My friend could really use an answer because it is a bit of a concern.

My friend recently got a BNS metal pad and the lights on the up arrow start to dim after being pressed for a while and sometimes some of them don't light up at all. It doesn't affect the responsiveness of the pad, but he'd like to know if this is a normal thing to happen and if there is any way to fix it? Thanks.


P.S. We have taken the pad apart and put it together again and can't seem to get it completely straight sometimes. Could this possibly be contributing the the weird way the LCD lights have been reacting?


Either some of the lights are dead or the power supply isn't insufficent. What port are you using? PS2? or printer port for comp? Printer port doesnt supply the same amount of power as the PS2, making the lights on pads very dim. I wouldn't worry about it as long as pad still works.


Thanks. It's a PS2 port though so I guess the lights are dying or something. Sometimes if you press it in hard enough then they turn on, but other times it doesn't and it's kind of weird. Doesn't affect the game though at all.

One of the times that my friend had opened up the pad though, we saw the sensors and they were the copper on foil type. What concerns me though is that the foil is basically aluminum foil so it is changing extremely easily probably whenever it is stepped on. I know about the pad modification, but if we don't do that will the sensors continue working or will they eventually break?

Also, that same up arrow that has the light problem seems to sink into the pad a little bit more than the others do when stepped on. Is this a problem with the padding in the pad and should it be worried about? Thanks.
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Thanks. It's a PS2 port though so I guess the lights are dying or something. Sometimes if you press it in hard enough then they turn on, but other times it doesn't and it's kind of weird. Doesn't affect the game though at all.

One of the times that my friend had opened up the pad though, we saw the sensors and they were the copper on foil type. What concerns me though is that the foil is basically aluminum foil so it is changing extremely easily probably whenever it is stepped on. I know about the pad modification, but if we don't do that will the sensors continue working or will they eventually break?

Also, that same up arrow that has the light problem seems to sink into the pad a little bit more than the others do when stepped on. Is this a problem with the padding in the pad and should it be worried about? Thanks.


The way you put it, I'm thinking your contacts are going dull. You say that when you press it hard enough, they turn on. I'm thinking, by pressing harder, you provide more surface area to complete the circuit. If you simply just tap it, some of the area of the contacts maybe dull and may not conduct, providing less current. Try putting something metal in btw the copper grid to complete the circuit and see if the lights are brighter, given that your pad have similar build to what I got. If that the case, then the foil on the arrow isn't completing the circuit, or the copper grid has some residue.

Get a brillo pad and rub the copper grid to rid of any residue and to give it a better surface to conduct. Also you should do the sheet metal modification to preserve the integrity of the contacts. Rather than aluminum foil breaking down, you have sheet metal that doesn't break down as fast. Plus it provides a better surface for contacts.

Sinking problem is that the foam being compressed more. You can replace it with a new foam. It also seems that due to less space provided by the foam, there maybe be a short circuit. The sheet metal mod should solve this problem tho.
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Anyone know where I can get replacement arrows for my BNS pad? Mine's one of the older models and the arrows are all cracked, and the left arrow just decided to stop working.
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Has anyone here actually gotten the newest version of metal DDR pad that judysdeals from ebay is selling? because i want to know first hand if they are actually polycarbonate arrows. Also, how can you tell if the arrows are polycarbonate or hard acrylic?
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HitokiriX wrote:
Has anyone here actually gotten the newest version of metal DDR pad that judysdeals from ebay is selling? because i want to know first hand if they are actually polycarbonate arrows. Also, how can you tell if the arrows are polycarbonate or hard acrylic?

*sigh*
Just to clear this up oncew and for all i have one of thoes judysdeals pads and they do have polycarb arrows. Please ivesid this soo many times they are fine they DO have the poly carb arrows
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I'm pretty new to DDR and I was thinking of getting a metal pad, but I'm not sure on what exactly to get..

Are RedOctanes any good?
http://store.yahoo.com/adux/redoctanemetalpad.html
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gomhen wrote:
I'm pretty new to DDR and I was thinking of getting a metal pad, but I'm not sure on what exactly to get..

Are RedOctanes any good?
http://store.yahoo.com/adux/redoctanemetalpad.html


Ugh people need to look atleast 2 pages back and you'll find the answers. Anyways, redoctane are pretty good and comes with a month's worth of warranty. If your strapped for cash, there is a metal clone with comparable features and prob comparable quality on ebay for $99:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3090641730&rd=1

BNS is also a nice metal pad for $150, but their customer service isn't that great. Any other metal pad you see either has subpar features ie. arcylic arrows or no frame. The ones I stated are your best candidates to pick from.

Whatever your choice, before you play, I insist you apply the sheet metal mod here:

http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html
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