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vsamaco
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1040.  Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:59 am Post subject: |
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They aren't all that great since they are acrylic panels. The name brands have more durable polycarbon panels. The last time I checked, there were only two metal pads with polycarbon panels that are being sold on ebay. One is a redoctane reseller and the other is judy deals.
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Anyway, the reviews on Lik-sang and playasia are both okay, but i'm guessing people that write reviews there have only had the pad for a short period of time. So my question is.. for a person who weighs ~48kgs, close to 100lb or so, will the acryllic arrows be sturdy, and will the contacts be okay? |
Acrylic arrows may not be great, but they should be sturdy enough for a person of your size. I've read post with ppl using the same type of arrows and they were like 200-300 pds, and they have yet to crack. The key thing that helps extend the life of these pads is the sheet metal mod. Basically get sheet metal and put it over the aluminum foil contacts on the bottom of the panel, to preserve the integrity of the contacts and the arrows. Check it out here:
http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html
If the arrows do crack, replacements arrows go for $6-15, but do make note the type of material of the arrows. As long as you keep tabs with maintanence of the pad, the pad should be able last you for a good amt of time. |
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Shadow_65
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| 1041. Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| DjDeluxay wrote: | hey,
how long have you had yours? |
About 2 months i play heavy and challenge songs and i play almost 5hrs a day and it is working fine except u should do the sheet metal mod.
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Dur'rian
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| 1042. Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: Red Octane Metal Pad Help (other RO Metal Pad owners look) |
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I have a problem with my red octane metal pad and I can even fix it with one lil' piece of information from some one else who ownes a RO pad.
I accidently stepped on the part that plugs the pad into the cotrol box. this broke that grey plastic part open and knocked loose some of the wires on the inside. I need to know which wires go where.
Here is what I got still connected:
Pink ____ ____ Red White
___ ____ ____ Blue/Purple _____
___ ____ Green Brown Black
Can any other RO metal pad owners help me by opening up that grey plastic piece and posting the wire configuration? PLEASE! |
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Label2021
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| 1043. Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Ok im confused. Ive read so many opinions about metal pads its not funny...I just want to know the BEST pad (durability, wont break, isnt cheap, etc.) for the BEST price (if possible $200 USD max). I want a Cobalt Flux but $300 is a lil crazy for a metal pad. I dont have the skills to build my own, and I play 9 foot songs normally so a cheap pad wont do me any good. I just want to know the best pad for the best price. Thank you for your help.
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liuser22
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| 1044. Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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ok so i banked anough to get my metal ddr pad finally ($400). Now im really startin to think about it and was wondering which is really the best. im not an uber ddr player, its more just for fun n some exercise for my foot speed. I was wondering what pad has the most durability and a decent amount of responsiveness. I was lookin at the CF only because it comes with a warranty and it sounds like everyone is pretty much pleased.
has anyone had any probs with their CF and how long have you had it?
btw, i dont trust myself to mod the pad because i have been known to easily screw things up, i need one that i can just plug n play.
thanks everyone
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zero2dash
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| 1045. Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ok everyone who's asked for the last 15 pages...
Best pad to buy for the money...it's simple. Goes somethin' like this. 
#1 Cobalt Flux
can't afford that?
#2 Red Octane
can't afford that?
#3 BNS (buynshop.com)
can't afford that?
#4 get somethin' else cheaper, like a CypherGames or whatever
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I own a BNS pad. I love my BNS pad. I spend $100 on it when discount-auction on eBay was selling BNS pads (without saying "hey, this metal pad is a BNS pad"). Rumor now is that he's selling 3rd party crapper pads so I wouldn't buy from him if I was looking.
Pads with a bar in the back do not support much weight. If you grab a bar to grab it (ie rape the bar) you'll probably be ok if you're doing it while playing. IF like many people in the arcade...you lean backwards on the bar after a song to rest - you can bet that the whole thing will tip over and you will bust your own arse. SO - if you must buy a 'bar' metal pad - don't lean all the way back on it.
Again, I can only speak on experience of BNS pads. Again, I love mine. I sheet metal modded it, if you need info on that I recommend looking back quite a few pages because I put the details on what I did in this same thread. If you want the *original* post with the *original* website to do it with, then go back to page 1 thread 1 and scroll through to find the website. Rufus' MyMyBox mod is what you're looking for.
People swear up and down about how blinger CF pads are. I've never used one, and I've never seen one in person. All my DDR friends play at the arcade, I think I'm the only metal pad owner in our group. If you have the money and don't mind spending it, then buy a CF pad and be happy with it. If I had the money for a CF pad, would I buy one? That's-a-big-MAYBE. I don't know, honestly. I don't know if I could justify the cost rather than buy a cheaper-priced-yet-decent-quality metal pad (ie RO or BNS).
BNS pads are like generic RO pads. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say if you are afraid your pad will bust and you don't know jack about electronics or videogame hardware, then you'd better buy a pad with a warranty or a customer service staff that will care. CF and RO are probably the only two in that department.
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MJSi24
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| 1046. Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| My friend recently got a BNS metal pad and the lights on the up arrow start to dim after being pressed for a while. It doesn't affect the responsiveness of the pad, but he'd like to know if this is a normal thing to happen and if there is any way to fix it? Thanks. |
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sexualsoybean
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| 1047. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Alright, my BNS "soft" pads completely fuxx0red up.. So, It's time that I buy a metal pad.. Cobalt Flux looks really dreamy, but I don't have enoguh money
Well, it's either BNS or Red Octane pads.. So, I got a few questions...
1) Heh, what do you recommend I buy? RO or BNS? The price difference really isnt that much, so I can get both. What do you recommend?
2) I see from some people on the forums, their arrows stick on the RO metal pad.. What is the fix to this??
3) What mods will I have to apply?
4) Anything additional information I should know? |
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vsamaco
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| 1048. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| sexualsoybean wrote: | Alright, my BNS "soft" pads completely fuxx0red up.. So, It's time that I buy a metal pad.. Cobalt Flux looks really dreamy, but I don't have enoguh money
Well, it's either BNS or Red Octane pads.. So, I got a few questions...
1) Heh, what do you recommend I buy? RO or BNS? The price difference really isnt that much, so I can get both. What do you recommend?
2) I see from some people on the forums, their arrows stick on the RO metal pad.. What is the fix to this??
3) What mods will I have to apply?
4) Anything additional information I should know? |
1.) $50 not a big price diff? Well if price is not a problem, go for an RO since it comes with a 60 day warranty. 30day for BNS? There are resellers of redoctane metal pads on EBAY and u can save yourself $20-30 if you win the auction. I believe that both the pads will provide the same if not equal performance, so its your call if you want to spend extra money for that warranty or not. Oh btw redoctane does include an XBox and PSX/2 port on their control box.
2.) Arrow stick, possibly the foam in between the arrow and contacts are so pressed in to a point that there is no real space between the arrow and contact when the arrow isn't pressed. So check the contacts and if needed, replace the foam.
3.) Sheet metal mod. Place sheet metal over the aluminum foil contacts to improve the integrity of the contacts. http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html This is absolutely necessary before you start playing to preserve the life of the pad. I spent $6 + shipping for 2'x3' metal and $10 on tin snips, so its not very expensive or complicated to do.
4.) The key features you should look for in metal pads are metal frame around the pad and polycarbon panels. The rest are either standard for most pads or do not add to quality of the pad. |
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gary0220
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| 1049. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:24 am Post subject: Cutomer Service |
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Customer service for Cyphergame is terrible. I tried to call in several times and was put on hold for at least 10 minutes. i would not buy from cypher
I shop aruond and then i bought dance pad from http://www.keepgaming.com cuz they are cheaper and they have the same thing as cypher. At least everytime i call them, they will help me.
Other places like ddrgame and buynshop are so EXPENSIVE.. |
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vsamaco
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| 1050. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Cutomer Service |
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| gary0220 wrote: | Customer service for Cyphergame is terrible. I tried to call in several times and was put on hold for at least 10 minutes. i would not buy from cypher
I would rather buy dance pads from http://www.keepgaming.com; everytime i call them, they will help me with many of my questions and concerns.
Other places like ddrgame and buynshop are so EXPENSIVE.. |
Cheaper products kinda reduce the amount of money they can provide for decent customer service, so its not unexpected. You take the risk of ordering a product for cheaper price and the quality of ones customer service if problems arise.
Cyphergames metal pads are the typical NEO pads (acrylic, no metal frame) and are not very good, as posted on first page of this thread.
The ones being sold on keepgaming are a little better and cheaper, but have a slightly different design. The corner brackets at each corner of each arrows have been replaced by a round washer and a screw, significantly reducing the amount of screws needed to be removed to inspect the inside of the pads. The arrows in turn to the reduced size of the washer, are almost full squares without cutoff corners. The downside is that the arrows are acrylic and not polycarbon :-/ The different shape of the arrows make it harder to find replacements that will fit in the pad. I don't think the replacements sold by mymybox, redoctane, or liksang will fit securly in this pad. I emailed keepgaming and they do supply properly sized replacements for these pads, yet they are acrylic. Also, the insides of the pad is wood. I dunno how it can be advertised to be constructed of all metal. Maybe they didn't expect the consumer to explore the inside :-P. I can confirm all this after unexpectly buying one off of ebay. Even though it wasn't the BNS clone that was being advertised, I did save $40. btw the ebayseller was discount-seller.
Eventhough BNS and RO are expensive, they have the better quality features of metal frame and polycarbon arrows. I heard that the ebay seller judydeals was selling clones for $100. Anyone would like to confirm the polycarbon arrows?
So check out all the possible retailers before buy one. You could save yourself $$$. At the same time you do risk yourself of lacking customer service on the product if problems arise, I.E. Ebay. Email the ebay sellers your questions before you buy and check their rating, to reduce the amount of fear of being scammed. |
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TrustNo1Uk
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| 1051. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:20 pm Post subject: Cobalt Flux Construction |
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Hi,
I am currently building a Cobult Flux clone Dance Pad. I am familiar with how the contact system works with two metal sheets and velcro seperating the two panels. I was just wondering if anyone had any information on how the Cobalt Flux is contructed/wiring mounted. Any pictures would be great (I don't want to reinvent the wheel  . I would also be interested with any suggestions anyone has to make in regard to this design. |
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sexualsoybean
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| 1052. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| vsamaco wrote: | | sexualsoybean wrote: | Alright, my BNS "soft" pads completely fuxx0red up.. So, It's time that I buy a metal pad.. Cobalt Flux looks really dreamy, but I don't have enoguh money
Well, it's either BNS or Red Octane pads.. So, I got a few questions...
1) Heh, what do you recommend I buy? RO or BNS? The price difference really isnt that much, so I can get both. What do you recommend?
2) I see from some people on the forums, their arrows stick on the RO metal pad.. What is the fix to this??
3) What mods will I have to apply?
4) Anything additional information I should know? |
1.) $50 not a big price diff? Well if price is not a problem, go for an RO since it comes with a 60 day warranty. 30day for BNS? There are resellers of redoctane metal pads on EBAY and u can save yourself $20-30 if you win the auction. I believe that both the pads will provide the same if not equal performance, so its your call if you want to spend extra money for that warranty or not. Oh btw redoctane does include an XBox and PSX/2 port on their control box.
2.) Arrow stick, possibly the foam in between the arrow and contacts are so pressed in to a point that there is no real space between the arrow and contact when the arrow isn't pressed. So check the contacts and if needed, replace the foam.
3.) Sheet metal mod. Place sheet metal over the aluminum foil contacts to improve the integrity of the contacts. http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html This is absolutely necessary before you start playing to preserve the life of the pad. I spent $6 + shipping for 2'x3' metal and $10 on tin snips, so its not very expensive or complicated to do.
4.) The key features you should look for in metal pads are metal frame around the pad and polycarbon panels. The rest are either standard for most pads or do not add to quality of the pad. |
1 and 2)
A) Well, why would I need to the warranty if I can fix everything wrong [like with the stuff you're saying.
B) Where does BNS sell these hard pads on Ebay? what is their username? Are they the same pads as the one on their site, if i win the aunction on ebay?
C) Are you sure they're resellers of the RO pad? I look at the two pictures ont he two sites for their metal pads and the picutres look different..
D) is the RO pad and the BNS pad made out of different material?? THe pictures look pretty different.
4) Well, why is everyone bragging about the Cobalt Flux if all they had were those features?
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vsamaco
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| 1053. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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There used to be exact RO metal pads be sold, I don't see any for sale right now. The RO reseller will show the exact picture, any other picture claiming to be RO, is a clone and may not have the same features. I'd check out these seller/product:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3089358266&rd=1
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3088868638&rd=1
Note, these are clones. I have no knowledge about the long-term quality of either of these products. I picked out these products for their features. I'd contact these dealers for more info. Don't worry about winning an auction, there are more rotated each week, so take your time and research the different sellers and their products.
I'm not too sure about the material of a RO or BNS, but it should be very similar despite the different looks.
The features I was listing were for metal pads below a CF. Cobalt flux is just a better build. Unlike other pads, it can withstand a SUV. While typical pads support up to 300 pds. |
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| 1054. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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hi, i was wondering if the "metal" base around the BNS metal pad was actually metal or cheap sheet metal-covered wood  .
thanks.peace. |
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sexualsoybean
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| 1055. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the 2nd one is expensive as a BNS pad.. So I might as well get it from BNS if I buy from the second one..
THe first one is decent priced. It's about the price of the BNS pad WITHOUT the shipping.. It seems hot.. But is JudysDeal good?? Should I purchase from them?? Damn, that looks like a sweet deal!
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HitokiriX
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| 1056. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hey. I want to play DDR and I've got like 200 bucks so I'm thinking of gettin a Playstation one, DDR konamix, and metal dance pad cuz everybody says that ignition pads suck. I found this good deal on ebay, but i'm not sure about the quality of the pad. The dealer is judy-deals and the metal platform is supposed to be the newest kind with a 30 day warranty. I've heard that she's a good dealer but sells clones even though she says that she doesn't sell clones.  It's only 100 bucks so its obviously not as good as the redoctane dance platforms but it looks good enough. the arrow keys are polycarbonate stuff, not the crappy hard acrylic plastic. also the description say's it'll last forever cuz its one metal back with metal brackets and stuff to hold it in, but i'm not sure. Plz review the item and tell me what u think!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21185&item=3089358291&rd=1 |
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vsamaco
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| 1057. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The_ultimate wrote: | | DjDeluxay wrote: | hey i have posted and it seems all my posts have been removed. I am wondering why. I have not been posting useless questions.
I want to buy a metal pad.
I am looking at http://stores.ebay.com/JUDYSDEALS-DOT-COM
and i am wondering has anyone bought the dance pads from this seller?
what are your thoughts? good dance pads?
as a teen, i do not have much money and do not want to get ripped off or end up buying a stupid pad
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Yes I have bought one of thoes pads they do have the poly carb arrows they are a trustworthy dealer it took exactly a week to get it after it was shipped. Remember to have ur pay pal address verified. otherwise it is good i was the one of the first ppl to buy one they are good i am 215 lbs and play heavy and it hasnt broke yet. its a cg pad but it does a control bix. its good for the price. |
That was what was said about the dealer in a previous post. So contact that individual to get real confirmation. |
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HitokiriX
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| 1058. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| vsamaco wrote: | | The_ultimate wrote: | | DjDeluxay wrote: | hey i have posted and it seems all my posts have been removed. I am wondering why. I have not been posting useless questions.
I want to buy a metal pad.
I am looking at http://stores.ebay.com/JUDYSDEALS-DOT-COM
and i am wondering has anyone bought the dance pads from this seller?
what are your thoughts? good dance pads?
as a teen, i do not have much money and do not want to get ripped off or end up buying a stupid pad
thanks |
Yes I have bought one of thoes pads they do have the poly carb arrows they are a trustworthy dealer it took exactly a week to get it after it was shipped. Remember to have ur pay pal address verified. otherwise it is good i was the one of the first ppl to buy one they are good i am 215 lbs and play heavy and it hasnt broke yet. its a cg pad but it does a control bix. its good for the price. |
That was what was said about the dealer in a previous post. So contact that individual to get real confirmation. |
about that....what does cg mean? and does the judy's deals seller sell metal pads that come with a control box and do they work on playstations? i want to get one so i want to make sure its good for the price. |
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vsamaco
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| 1059. Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| HitokiriX wrote: | | about that....what does cg mean? and does the judy's deals seller sell metal pads that come with a control box and do they work on playstations? i want to get one so i want to make sure its good for the price. |
I think cg means cyphergames brand. It is made for a PSX/2 so it should have a control box that has PS hookups. |
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