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0. PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:14 pm    Post subject: Question about forum upkeep Reply with quote

With as much redundant topics that get posted forumwide, I see no problem with the amount of closed topics...

But why close?

I could see closing 90+ pages of useful, and insightful info whether it be the Ultramix thread, or some other topic that has grown too large, but why don't mods/admins delete worthless, 2 post topics that were answered about 3 topics above it?

Deleting topics would be beneficial in getting worthless topics out of the way for more important ones (Just look at the site feedback forum...)

Does this forum prohibit deleting of posts, or am I just missing a major drawback to such an idea?
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1. PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you delete them, people won't learn from the locked ones not to make others.
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2. PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually we prefer a lock to a delete so people (especially the original poster) don't ask what happened to it. Yeah, sometimes it results in a bunch of locked topics on the front page, but due to the lack of new replies they usually fall off soon enough.
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3. PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, if we get in the habit of deleting threads, we won't have as much evidence for points that we've given out. It could be easy for someone to say that they were unfairly warned/banned because we no longer have proof that they actually did something.
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4. PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But with all this nonsense cluttering up the feedback forum, wouldn't it be easier to just delete this worthless posts, and let the warning points do the talking?

I see your point if someone asked about Ultramix's song list, but well, even some topics (once again, in the site feedback forum) shouldn't even have the luxury of existing.

IRT Spike>
I used to be a mod at a Gamespy forum, and to counter that, we would document the incident (Save the webpage of the topic to be deleted) in a post in the mod forum, then delete the post. On record, off the forum.
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5. PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But that doesn't leave the example of what not to do for other forum users. It's not so much a matter of keeping it around for moderator purposes, it's a matter of showing others why a particular thread is bad.
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6. PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, but then while you attempt to show people where they went wrong, you then bump a worthless (because it's closed) topic, thus pushing all worthly topics down, and perhaps to the second page.

I am not saying do not lock anymore, but it wouldn't hurt to delete something, and use the PM system when a topic is absolutely useless.

(A few on the first page of this forum)
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84958
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84888
http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=84795

These topics provide nothing other then useless spam and have no use whatsoever.
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7. PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're still going to end up with the "What happened to the <insert topic here> thread?" even if you PM the creator. resulting in yet ANOTHER thread that will require a lock.
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8. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDRfreak has very stable forum rules, and from what i have seen one of the best maintaned phpBB2 forums i've come across. That because they do take into consideration peoples suggestions and complaints, but rarely do they put them into action. That being because they have such a steady,peaceful amount of users, and such a very little that have complaints. Their forums are running very good right now, and it would be impossible to suit every single persons needs on this forum. Which is why they leave the FAQ andn continue to run things the way they currently are. I personally dont see this thread going anywhere so maybe a mod/admin will think about locking this.
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9. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spike wrote:
Also, if we get in the habit of deleting threads, we won't have as much evidence for points that we've given out. It could be easy for someone to say that they were unfairly warned/banned because we no longer have proof that they actually did something.
Oh! Now I know why you guys cannot delete old/locked threads. the evidence!

And if you guys like delete threads, will the users that posted in that particular thead will lose the # of threads in their profile? Let's say that I have 400 post and one of your admins deleted a thread that I posted there 4 times. will I end up having 396 total post in my profile stats?

sorry that I worded wrong, but I hope one of you can understand it and give me a response. Thanx

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10. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gdogg(Icecold)400 wrote:
And if you guys like delete threads, will the users that posted in that particular thead will lose the # of threads in their profile? Let's say that I have 400 post and one of your admins deleted a thread that I posted there 4 times. will I end up having 396 total post in my profile stats?
Yes. If a thread is deleted or pruned (as is occasionally done to really old threads), posters who participated will have reduced postcounts.

Which is one of many reasons why "In before teh lock!" postwhoring is stupid.
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11. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutriss wrote:
gdogg(Icecold)400 wrote:
And if you guys like delete threads, will the users that posted in that particular thead will lose the # of threads in their profile? Let's say that I have 400 post and one of your admins deleted a thread that I posted there 4 times. will I end up having 396 total post in my profile stats?
Yes. If a thread is deleted or pruned (as is occasionally done to really old threads), posters who participated will have reduced postcounts.
This is wrong actually.
Pruning a forum will NOT decrease user post counts. Flat out deleting the thread will.
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12. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting...I want to say this a distinction that phpBB didn't always have. Deletion indicates a deliberate removal of the post, whereas pruning says "Okay, it's outlived it's usefulness, but it was there at some point."
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13. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y'know, now that I think about it maybe we could start just deleting accidental posts, or posts where the OP changes his mind and changes it to "lock me". No one's going to ask why we get rid of those, and they don't really serve any purpose except to waste bandwidth.
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14. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutriss wrote:
Interesting...I want to say this a distinction that phpBB didn't always have. Deletion indicates a deliberate removal of the post, whereas pruning says "Okay, it's outlived it's usefulness, but it was there at some point."
I don't know if it's documented, but I was a "User Support Whore" in the days of 2.0.3 - 2.0.5.
I saw that issue come up a LOT in the phpBB Support forum.
I take the Moderators'/Admins' word for it E10.gif.
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