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Freestyle isn't all flashy moves... If you just dance like you would dance in something like, I don't know... a club or dance hall, it will look good. I do break moves on the machine all the time though. I pull a 4 step downrock move and handstand on B4U cause that is, in my opinion one of the best songs ever. At any rate my move for that is relatively simple to pull off and at the same time looks pretty impressive.

D Break-
arrows = left-right, up, down,right,left-up or (left, up)
movement = hit the left and right with your feet facing forward, hit the up with your right hand then go back and hit the down with your left hand. Hit the right with your right hand and at the same time swing our right left up in front of you and turn your body so that your left leg goes over your right. With your right foot hit the left arrow and with your left foot hit the up arrow.

This requires some strength on the right hand since it pretty much supports all of your weight and pushes you back up to a standing position. But just practice it and it's relatively easy to pick up. I'll make a video of it sometime in the near future.

For now take a look at me in the following video doing Boom Boom Dollar, my left arm was sprained and so it didn't move too much but the rest of my body makes up for it.

Boom Boom Dollar by D
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QHeretic (^0^)\m/! YATTA wrote:
dj 8-ball wrote:

"If there was no dance pad and no machine what would my freestyle routine look like?"
The best I can put it.


And yet at the same time you have to be able to dance like you're on the pad...cause if you try to dance like you're not, chances are you'll fail the song.


Nah. Look at Hypnotikz Long Train Runnin' routine to name one. Looks totally normal w/out the machine there. Just gotta find ways to make it work and look like you're clubbin' w/out compromising your steps.
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What I meant to say is you gotta keep in mind where you are on the pad, for example.
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Uh I'm kind of a newbie to this game since an arcade here just got DDR Extreme... I'm used to the Pump it Up music games I can freestyle and do break dance moves on songs on there... but the up down left right step format seems kind of awkward for freestyling.... just doesn't feel right... any tips... (I'm talking about FS on standard/heavy... light is easy to FS on.)
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Tsuri wrote:
(I'm talking about FS on standard/heavy... light is easy to FS on.)


It seems you are challenging yourself very highly. Not many will freestyle on the more difficult levels because it's harder to make any moves look good. I suggest sticking to Light to freestyle until you get used to the arrow placement.
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I don't think it's THAT steep for me, I'm used to the arrow placement and I can FS on some extremely hard songs on PIU PREX3s Nightmare mode... except for the really insane ones... Heavy on doubles is about the equivalent of Nightmare mode, and I'm not just talking about break moves (those are for Standard mode... lol), I'm talking about spins too....

it's simple to spin on PIU for me because there is a center panel and some songs actually force you to... but on DDR it's a bit difficult to pull one off without getting disoriented... sometimes I accidentally step on the other persons shoe playing on the other side erm.gif
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Umm your freestyle might be a bit different from mine, got a vid?
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no, I don't have a capture device, but my current FS moves are on an entirely different game so it doesn't count toward DDR fs... If I find a friend with some kind of way to make an MPG out of stuff I tape I'll post one... but it's all on doubles/Freestyle mode - and the current price of DDR Extreme here isn't very inviting... $1.50 - it was $1 a day ago but they jacked up the price frown.gif so thats $3 for doubles frown.gif

Reason for price increase :
They're the only place with DDR in this city currently (imagine an evil arcade manager laughing like a psyco)
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hey, this seems to be the place I need to ask this...some random FS questions that may or may not have been asked...

I have a hard time freestyling to songs that have too few steps, cause I tend do pull my ideas for moves from the arrow patterns. like spin the disc light is impossible to me. I have to do it on standard/little cause I run out of ideas. also, I'm looking to give my popping a bit more uhhh...pop lol. a lot of people tell me that they like what I do, but it seems a bit unclean. are these things that will get better the longer I freestyle? or do you have any tips that could fix them sooner?

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You'll get better as you practice. The more you do it the better you'll get at it and light mode = break dance extreme mode to me... fit some handstands in there... or the matrix walk and remember... not all moves require you to be on the pad all the time biggrin.gif

I haven't FSed on doubles... $3 is too much. I'm willing to pay $2 for double.

Tsugaru makes a good FS routine E1.gif
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Tsuri wrote:
... fit some handstands in there... or the matrix walk


Forget about me needing to see a video of you. I already saw one a few years back obviously.
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Tsuri wrote:
... fit some handstands in there... or the matrix walk and remember...


Handstand...maaaaaaaaybe.
Matrix Walk!? E19.gif That was cool for the first few months of DDR.
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i'm trying to come up with a freestyle for Gamelan de Couple and debating over whether to put a knee-plant in it. it feels ok on my soft pad on carpet at home with Stepmania, but i don't know if it will hurt on a metal pad. should i wear kneepads or something?
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Oolong wrote:
i'm trying to come up with a freestyle for Gamelan de Couple and debating over whether to put a knee-plant in it. it feels ok on my soft pad on carpet at home with Stepmania, but i don't know if it will hurt on a metal pad. should i wear kneepads or something?


If you're planning on any type of knee anything, always wear pads.
Then again, knee drops etc. only look good when they make sense of the flow of the routine i.e. don't do them simply for the reason of "Look! I can do a knee drop!"
Just my .02 on those.
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Phrekwenci wrote:
Tsuri wrote:
... fit some handstands in there... or the matrix walk


Forget about me needing to see a video of you. I already saw one a few years back obviously.


Not neccesarily, I don't do just those, I was refering to things to maybe start off with... I've actually never done the matrix walk myself... pads are too far away from the machine where I play. But there is one thing I'm sure I'll never attempt : a head spin... looks painful... probably is painful... would be even more painful on a hold step.
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ok, let's take a look at what I asked originally. I did not ask for suggestions of "moves" or "tricks" that many people find offensive, unfitting to the nuance of the music, damaging to the machine, dangerous, or would even require a machine. I asked for help on a dance style and about what I can do to feel more comfortable freestyling when there are few arrows on screen. I would really appreciate if someone could answer my question with helpful advice on the questions (which I feel i clearly stated) rather than give me moves.

no one should take that as a personal attack, just frustration on my part E1.gif
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Well if you do not feel comfortable with few arrows on the screen I would suggest freestyling on something in standard mode - there are some songs where you can switch off from stepping to freestyling and there are more that have easy standard steps.

I used to have trouble going to a song with few steps directly after selecting a song with a lot of steps, You just have to play more and get used to different step styles... mabye even try some other dance games to give you a different experience, getting used to other things may make it easier on you.... perhaps you should play songs you'd never pick otherwise... unless you've passed everything on the machines you play on....
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dj 8-ball wrote:
Oolong wrote:
i'm trying to come up with a freestyle for Gamelan de Couple and debating over whether to put a knee-plant in it. it feels ok on my soft pad on carpet at home with Stepmania, but i don't know if it will hurt on a metal pad. should i wear kneepads or something?


If you're planning on any type of knee anything, always wear pads.
Then again, knee drops etc. only look good when they make sense of the flow of the routine i.e. don't do them simply for the reason of "Look! I can do a knee drop!"
Just my .02 on those.

yeah, there's a spot where the music changes and there's a jump then a beat of rest so i figured that would be perfect for a knee drop since i'd have enough time to get back up. thanks for your advice.
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sTrAiT wrote:
I asked for help on a dance style and about what I can do to feel more comfortable freestyling when there are few arrows on screen.


It all depends on the song you are doing. Dance as that it feel right with the song. Like you migth think liquid/rave to I feel, or pop n' lock to Stoic. It's all about moving to the music and not worrying to much about the steps. Problem is, many of the songs on DDR weren't meant to be "dance" songs.
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Oolong wrote:
dj 8-ball wrote:
Oolong wrote:
i'm trying to come up with a freestyle for Gamelan de Couple and debating over whether to put a knee-plant in it. it feels ok on my soft pad on carpet at home with Stepmania, but i don't know if it will hurt on a metal pad. should i wear kneepads or something?


If you're planning on any type of knee anything, always wear pads.
Then again, knee drops etc. only look good when they make sense of the flow of the routine i.e. don't do them simply for the reason of "Look! I can do a knee drop!"
Just my .02 on those.

yeah, there's a spot where the music changes and there's a jump then a beat of rest so i figured that would be perfect for a knee drop since i'd have enough time to get back up. thanks for your advice.


That's still classified as a "no reason knee drop." Make the knee drop part of the dance, not the song. Flow.
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