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20. PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. 9 at least. it is ten cuz it's fast, the part after the freez, and the end. ( maby )
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21. PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think people's opinions on whether or not Sakura is a 10 footer is largely based on their skill level. If you were to ask me for instance, I would have to say yes, but thats because I am only at the 7-8 heavy footer level with only 1 cata passed with a D. Although looking at step-charts it does seem to be the easiest 10, but I still say its to hard to be a 9, just my opinion though.
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22. PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Sakura should be a 10, because when it's right on the line, it's better to warn people that it's a hard 9. Some guy who just passed Irresistablement is gonna try it and fail. It's better to say it's harder than most 9's than to make people find out
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23. PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Konami says it's a 10 then it's a 10. I haven't passed it yet but I've passed 7 9 foot catas including sakura oni (actually i haven't attempted it). Don't diss the song just because it's the easiest 10 foot. If it wasnt there then people would be picking on bag since it is indeed the next easiest....especially on 5x. I have nothing else to input.

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24. PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Geere wrote:
well i think it deserves to be a 10. because, it is easy to beat, but difficult to PA. with all the freezes, pauses, bpm changes. it can be tricky to PA. but it is easy as hell to pass. so start PA'ing people! frust.gif


I agree. Being a mediocre PAer, I can pass Sakura, but I have a hard time AAing the song. For me, that's how I base the foot level -- the ability to AA the song on 1x. So yeah, Sakura is worthy of a 10.

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25. PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucavious wrote:
No, what is a real crime is Dive being an 8-footer and Dream a Dream being a 7-footer. They need to be lowered by 1.


Dream A Dream I can agree with. Dive, on the other hand... too many step-jumps. Those make it an 8 for me.

As for Sakura... never tried it. How 'bout we keep it 10 feet so that when I beat it sight reading I can brag "I sightread a 10 footer!!! Bwahahaha!!!" E15.gif
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26. PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sakura should be either an 8 or 9. It isn't that difficult to pass. HOWEVER, AAA'ing is a completely different story...

Too...hard... *sniff sniff* riiight.gif

"Now, why not make it a 10 footer because of the sheer difficulty of AA'ing/AAA'ing it", you may ask? Well, because there are a bunch 8 and 9 footers that I can't AAA, and even though that is the case, I'm not about to raise them up to 10 footers. Some of them are:

Gradiusic Cyber (AMD G5 Mix)
Daikenkai
Be Lovin' <- Always lose on the ending air arrows!!!
So Deep (Perfect Sphere Remix)
Captain Jack (Grandale Remix)
Sakura

I'll stop there. The rating of difficulty, I think, should be the player's ability to actually successfully pass the said song.
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27. PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok heres what u do look at the score after u AAA the song it should be a 10
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28. PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMGWTFBBQ wrote:
If Konami says it's a 10 then it's a 10. I haven't passed it yet but I've passed 7 9 foot catas including sakura oni (actually i haven't attempted it). Don't diss the song just because it's the easiest 10 foot. If it wasnt there then people would be picking on bag since it is indeed the next easiest....especially on 5x. I have nothing else to input.

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of course bag is easy sped up the only reason that song is a 10 is beacause of how hard it is to read beacause its so slow so no wonder u all think its e z being cheap and speeding it up you are taking away the only hardaspect of the song
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29. PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For whatever reason I find Sakura very difficult. I can A most of the 9's but I have trouble even passing Sakura. And it is very difficult to PA as well. It is a 10.
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30. PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, for my two cents:
I think that Sakura should be a nine. Compared to every other ten (the only other one of which I can pass is Bag 1.5x), it's not too hard. But then again, we must take an objective approach to evaluating song ratings. While some of us may be passing Sakura on our 1st-3rd tries, there are others of us who are finding Sakura very difficult. I think it all depends on the player, and what type of song that player does well, that player's abilities, etc. The rhythm changes, while easy for some, give hell to others, and I don't blame them (I failed the first few times because of the first slow-down). So, perhaps it should be a nine, or perhaps it serves a useful purpose as a "transition 10" as someone else wrote. We can all give our own opinions, but let's face it, it's a ten because Konami says it's a 10 (as ¤^42987^¤ pointed out). Since we're onto opinions, I think it's harder than Healing Vision Angelic Mix because HVAM is kinda predictable; it doesn't have any wierd parts, and everything kinda falls into place, whereas Sakura has the tempo changes and that wierd rhythm section towards the end. I think So Deep, on the other hand, should be a ten, because of the stamina and skills required to pass that song. The rhythm change 3/4 of the way through threw me off for the longest time. yup, so there's my two cents.
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31. PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first played it on Stepmania, I thought it was extremely hard. There's a few tricky steps but after you get the hang of it then it isn't that bad. But I'd have to imagine that any song is like that, so I would keep in mind how hard the song was when you first played it. And unless you can get at least an A, then you really shouldn't be saying how easy it is. Just because you skimmed through it on a sugar high and pulled a D out of your butt doesn't mean you can start telling people that you play 10 footers. Get an A, then you can decide how hard it really is.
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32. PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QHeretic (^0^)\m/! YATTA wrote:
Sakura? It's a 5 footer.

um, im not trying to prove you wrong or anything, but on LIGHT mode its 5, and on STANDARD its 8(passed it with a D, damnit)and on heavy its ten
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33. PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nheyne wrote:
When I first played it on Stepmania, I thought it was extremely hard. There's a few tricky steps but after you get the hang of it then it isn't that bad. But I'd have to imagine that any song is like that, so I would keep in mind how hard the song was when you first played it. And unless you can get at least an A, then you really shouldn't be saying how easy it is. Just because you skimmed through it on a sugar high and pulled a D out of your butt doesn't mean you can start telling people that you play 10 footers. Get an A, then you can decide how hard it really is.

this wasnt meant for me, but im taking your word to heart.
Sakura is one of the most difficult songs ive ever played in my DDR career.
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34. PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should Sakura be a 10-footer? Damn straight it should. Even though I came 2 perfects away from AAing it, i know its a lot harder for people who arent at my level yet. I mean i used to couldnt pass it but the first time i did it was with an A. It is definately the easiest 10-footer though. Once you pass it thogh you can can do again.

For whoever said So Deep should be a 10-footer, laugh.gif not even close bud!!
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!sweetsakura! wrote:
i found Sakura to be a lot easier than some of the other catas i've attempted, and Im really not that good. ^___^

i think I have a better shot of passing Sakura than Exotic Ethnic or Healing Vision AM.
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lol i got Bs on healing vision angelic and exotic ethnic but i still screw up on sakura. the song itself isnt that hard but the change in tempo pisses the hell outta me
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36. PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think there should be more songs like sakura. So Deep and cartoon heroes should be bumped up to 10, thus broadening the range of difficulty, changing how people percievethe difficulty of a 10. Back in the MAX days, So Deep was very close to being made a 10, but it was believed that it would take away from max300, being the first 10
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37. PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say it should be 9, because when it slows down with the D Freeze arrow it's hard to time it just right. All the rest is easy.
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38. PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a tough call. In my opinion, the only 9 which is comparable with Sakura in difficulty (to pass) is So Deep. On the other hand, the other 10-footers are all harder than Sakura (I'm excluding bag from the discussion; I normally don't play x1, so I'm in no position to compare bag x1 with the other 10's). So Sakura belongs in the void between the hard 9's and the 10's...

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. The foot ratings are just there to tell people who haven't played a song how hard it is likely to be (roughly). They become less relevant as the player becomes better, and they don't have much to do with PA (If you're at the level where you can PA well enough, you don't need Konami to tell you about a song's difficulty level.) Yes, the foot rating also influences your Max Score, but it's not like anyone cares about score anyways...
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39. PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I think Sakura should be a 10 footer. There are big gaps in difficulty between the 10 footers and Sakura just happens to be one of the easier ones. If you compare Max300 (a worthy 10 footer in anyone's opinion) to PSMO, you should get what i mean. They are all 10 footers, except some have to be easier and some have to be harder.
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