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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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1480. PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno if home depot has it or not, i didn't see it there. but at lowe's it's with the glass and the door supplies and moldings ..not the actual premade doors themselves...
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1481. PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redhotfanboy wrote:
Wow i screwed up big time riiight.gif

I have to cut away at the 2x4 supports to make room for the arrow pannels and the brackets. Also two quick questions. What exact type of weather striping do i need(seen people talking high desinsty and other types) and WHERE is the plexiglass at Home Depot? Asked literally 20 people there(including near the door/window section where i think it would be) and nobody knew where it was devil.gif


When you go to Home Depot, go near the back and ask one of the staff members where the acrylic is. They usually don't know what lucite or plexi is disturb.gif . I think that there usually is a section in the back right corner in home depot is where they keep the acrylic.

The weatherstripping you'll want to use is the Open Cell Weatherstripping. The High Density is foamy and does not spring back up as fast as the open cell.


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I started making Patsters Pad about 2 months ago. As you probably know, his site has gone down and I am left a bit confused. Luckilly I think I am at a point I can finish with some other plans or just on my own, but does anyone know if Patster can be reached or if his page just moved.

I've been away from this site for a couple months now but you guys can try PM'ing me here at DDRfreak. I have the notification thingy that e-mails me whenever I get a PM. My website changed from attbi.com to comcast.net. Everything is still there at http://home.comcast.net/~patster/home.html


Thanks Patster! E13.gif


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ok, I got a (stupid) question has anyone had problems with using Lucite? I went to Lowe's and they have Lucite and Lucite-Tuf, and the tuf is like 20.00 more... now I know your saying 'if you have that much money in it, why go for the cheap stuff' ..well beacuse they don't have the size I need. It's going to be a LOT more becuase I'll have to get two or three sheets of the tuf to get enough for the 8 pieces for all the arrows. Otherwise I can get a huge piece of the Lucite for like 30.00 and get all 8 out of it. . . . any suggestions or comments? -thanks


I haven't had any problems with the lucite for ddrhomepad's design. I'd say go for the cheaper brand until you can afford the Tuf. I'd get the right size than ones that are stronger but not of the right type.


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1482. PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadow_Dragonz wrote:

I haven't had any problems with the lucite for ddrhomepad's design. I'd say go for the cheaper brand until you can afford the Tuf. I'd get the right size than ones that are stronger but not of the right type.
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ok, sweet, thanks for the info. I found everything else I needed today x-cept the buttons for the external box. None of the vending companies had them in stock here and one of them wanted to charge me 16.99 for a button i can order online for like 6... E19.gif
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I dunno if Ace/Westlake Hardware is only in Oklahoma or not, but if you guys have them, I suggest going there to get the metal, it's about half of what it is at home depot and/or lowes. E1.gif
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a question about LED's. about how many 5mm 4000 mcd LED's would be bright enough/spread out enough to light one arrow panel? thanks

P.S.- Shadow_Dragonz: if you're still looking for an image hosting site, you might want to try http://www.myimgs.com/. thats where i got my images hosted and it seems to work alright.
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1485. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Controller Soldering Reply with quote

I am using an old soft pad board instead of a controller to wire my pad. I was wondering if an one else who has done this had trouble soldering wire to the black strips on that type of thing. My solder won't stay on the black strips. Also, could someone tell me if I need to solder all of my arrow circuts the ground spot or can I wire them all together and only solder one wire to the ground spot. Thanks a lot.
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1486. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Controller Soldering Reply with quote

mt1228 wrote:
I am using an old soft pad board instead of a controller to wire my pad. I was wondering if an one else who has done this had trouble soldering wire to the black strips on that type of thing. My solder won't stay on the black strips. Also, could someone tell me if I need to solder all of my arrow circuts the ground spot or can I wire them all together and only solder one wire to the ground spot. Thanks a lot.


I just finished my pad and I also used a board from an old soft pad. I took forever to get the wires to stick and it was extremely frustrating, but it eventually worked, i am just very careful with the wiring because even if i give it a slight tug, they will pop off. They work fine though even though they arent stuck on very well, just as long as they don't pop off. To answer you second question, I only used one wire to solder to the ground spot and it works just fine. I just twisted all the ground wires around another short length of wire, put a dab of solder to hold them together, wrapped the part where they were intertwined in electrical tape, and soldered the other end to the ground spot.


And now time for me me me.


I made my contact system using the mending brackets system. After about five or ten songs, the screws start to get loose. I think it's because the holes that I pre-drilled are too deep and the screws aren't holding any wood and slowly pull out from the vibrations and being stomped on. I might just move the contacts over a little and put the screws straight into the wood or drill really short guide holes right next to the current ones that are too deep. I'm not sure, open to suggestions on what to do about my contact system. *hint hint*


Also still trying to work out a solution to the absolutely ridiculous amout of noise my pad makes. First I am going to double layer the weather stripping, then fill the arrow wells with foam. I'll keep you posted on how that works out. Anyone with any suggestions or solutions that they used, help me out!



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you might wanna try applying some stuff called "thread locker"
it's sort of an adhesive that holds screws in place so they don't come out due to vibration.
however, I'm not sure that it works with wood.
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okay... pad is FINALLY done (after a few months) and it works... but not as i expected it. first of all, you have to push down HARD... meaning, stomping on the darn thing, and even when I do i get goods and almosts (on a PS2 ddr game no less).

So when i step down i can actually feel it bend down, which feels like you have to bend it alot to make contact with the metal. also when it steps down it feels like it sticks (even makes little suction cup noises). Well atleast it works... but I just spent all my energy on a LIGHT song when normally I can do max 300 heavy before being exhausted.

What do I do to make it ALOT more sensitive? We even had to take out alot of weatherstripping, and it still seems hard to step down on.

thanks in advance. (pictures of ddr pad will come... nothing fancy)
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1489. PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:13 pm    Post subject: ddrhomepads pad design Reply with quote

ok im new to this and i just wanted to get one thing straight, i pretty much got it all figured out but does this picture mean that i have to have a seperate ground point somewhere like on my pad or something, i understand that you have to solder the 4 wires from your arrows to the ground point, and one wire from the controller to the ground point, can anyone please tell where to put this ground point or how to locate it

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This gave me trouble too when I started on my pad. Well the ground point isn't really anything big, it's just the place where the main ground wire connects to 4 seperate wires, each leading to an arrow. They all were soldered at one point... so in that picture that little ball of scribbles is all the solder which connects all the wires together. I hope that made sense.
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Jace wrote:
okay... pad is FINALLY done (after a few months) and it works... but not as i expected it. first of all, you have to push down HARD... meaning, stomping on the darn thing, and even when I do i get goods and almosts (on a PS2 ddr game no less).

So when i step down i can actually feel it bend down, which feels like you have to bend it alot to make contact with the metal. also when it steps down it feels like it sticks (even makes little suction cup noises). Well atleast it works... but I just spent all my energy on a LIGHT song when normally I can do max 300 heavy before being exhausted.

What do I do to make it ALOT more sensitive? We even had to take out alot of weatherstripping, and it still seems hard to step down on.

thanks in advance. (pictures of ddr pad will come... nothing fancy)


i think the problem with your pad might be that you are using closed cell weather stripping. this is a lot harder to compress and could be the problem. i used open cell weather stripping and my pad is really sensitive. if you are using open cell, then im afraid i dont know what the problem is. hope this helps
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Thanks for the quick answer jace, i hope to be starting my pad in a few days, i have to pick up all the materials that i need
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well i got ma pad sarted on sunday with my dad. right now i got the base completed and left up and down on the controller works (gotta fix some sodder problems with the right) other than that all i need is buttons, then wire it up to the buttons and then im completed so within the week i hope to be done (i hope to have a pic once i decorate the thing)
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I want to use ddrhomepads design, but i wanted to add an extra piece to the top and the bottom for a start select, and an x and o, heres a picture, i just wanted to know if its possible to wire all those wires to the controller, and if it will still work

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1495. PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: right arrow only working half way Reply with quote

Hey,
I just recently finished my ddr pad based on ddrhomepad's design. It works great but for some reason only half of my right arrow registers a hit. I have checked to look for anything getting in the way and the weatherstripping seems to be clear. But the left half of the right arrow(part towards center) works but not the right. Anyways all help is appreciate. Thanks for you help.
p.s. what is the screw mod?
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erdons wrote:
I want to use ddrhomepads design, but i wanted to add an extra piece to the top and the bottom for a start select, and an x and o, heres a picture, i just wanted to know if its possible to wire all those wires to the controller, and if it will still work


that should work alright if you wire the controller correctly. the pieces for start/select/etc. could use the same switching system as the arrows. if you decide not to do this you could always put pushbuttons in the side of the pad or make a TerTerBox. anyway, if you do decide that this is what you want to do, go for it, it should work alright.
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Just curious. What kind of sheet metal are you using for the arrows? Copper's the only thing I know of that you can solder to, and that doesn't look like copper to me.

I'm rewiring a CG pad that went bad and after too many complications and problems to count, I got to the last step of my modifications, soldering to the sheet metal, and found that the solder simply beaded and wouldn't stick.
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Hrm. Trying to think which way to do the arrow contacts.. Either the 2 square metal plate contacts where you push down and they complete the circuit or... One metal plate and it would touch the screws that are attached to wires.. If you have done 'em both ways or have also thought about it tell me what yah think. blink.gif
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