Bar Raping... is it really that bad?

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I was quite disturbed when i came upon this comment in a post by Yakka Yaeko (I hope its ok that I used your post)

ddrlacrosse · Trick Member Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: New Hampshire

I dont really mind if someone bar 'rapes' if it's on one of the MAXes. If it's like R&P maniac, I might mind a little, but to see someone doing it on butterfly light would be stupid
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sh1nez · Trick Member Joined: 01 Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey SP

i rape the bar for the maxes i aint got a problem wit it . dont rape the bar while you are freestyling. songs that require u to move fast u can rape the bar cuz it helps u keep ur balance and helps u move fast with puttin all ur weight on ur feet
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devil_zukin · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:23 am Post subject:

My feelings on it are that I don't do it and seeing people do it makes me think that they are not really doing the song, no matter what song it is. If they can't pass a song without holding onto the bar then I would think that that means you would need to work harder on the song without using the bar. I grew up not using the bar at all. That doesn't mean I hate or dislike the people that do use the bar in anyway at all.

This is by no means law or anything like that, just how I feel about holding the bar.

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YmkFX · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Location: California

I get alot of flak for bar raping, people assume that if I do it while playing a Max it automatically means I can't pass it without the bar. I always have to tell them it's for my PA, but they never believe me, and I'm not about to waste another dollar proving it to them.

Max300:
Bar-A
No Bar-A

Legend of Max:
Bar-B
No Bar-C

(Not to start another score/accomplishment thread, but really the bar doesn't make THAT much of a difference in my playing as most would be taught to think, I'm not instantly AAA'ing songs.)
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Grace · Trick Member Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX

I wasn't really into the online ddr scene when I decided whether or not to use the bar. One of the kids I played with regularly was using the bar for balance so I tried it but I wasn't sure what it could do for me. Then I went to visit my family in Seattle and I visitted Illuzions. I saw a lot of amazing players there who were using the bar and I realized it was a tool that could be used for more then just keeping myself from falling. After that I tried it out a little more seriously. Generally, if I can pass a song with the bar I can pass it without the bar. It's just a matter of being familiar the steps (if it's a tricky song). But, the bar helps me save some stamina as well as keeping me balanced for stomps and other steps I have a little difficulty with.

The bar is my friend. I treat it nicely and it is nice to me. If anyone is cruel to me or my bar I will have them thrown out of the arcade.

Besides, I'm not the type to care what people think about me. My bar use is not a reflection of my character nor is anything about my (lack of) ddr skill.

Hysterical BreAkdown · Trick Member Joined: 08 Oct 2003 Location: Severn, Md

Yes, Bar raping is really that bad

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Theres nothing wrong with bar raping, it just doesnt look as good. Its the players choice if they will sacrifice looks. In my case, i find being able to pass Max 300 alive is impressive enough that my bar raping isnt an issue.
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J.R. · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:37 am Post subject:

The only song I bar rape is Max 300 to me it is the hardest max.I have beat PS and MaxxU no bar.So bar rape is not that bad.

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djsodu372ajai · Trick Member Joined: 16 Aug 2003

Not another topic about it!

I think Bar Raping is all a matter of opinion.

TCBCR.Toastercookie · Trick Member Joined: 14 Oct 2002 Location: Eugene, OR

I live in the northwest.. therefore i bar rape BIMP beginner

seriously though.. everyone who is good at DDR in teh northwest (Oregon, Washington) bar rapes. Even our best player, GPF Lith, rapes the bar when he plays light and standard songs, and so does everybody else. The northwest also has some of the nation's best players.

yay4bar rapers

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{SFSA}MelJ · Trick Member Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Location: The 518

i find nothing wrong with using the bar. i use it only on the Maxes, PS and PSM and PSMO. some of the world's best players use it. but hey, that's my opinion. if u look down on bar raping, i have np with it, but if it gets ya perfects, more power to it

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flip314 · Trick Member Joined: 04 Nov 2002

I never use the bar. My scores actually go down when I use the bar, because I get confused as to what I'm supposed to do. haha.

The only song I haven't passed is PSM oni, and i doubt i could pass that even if i could bar rape. i just can't cross over that fast yet...
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thetaller1 · Trick Member Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Location: Ur Momma

[lol], guys its a bar! especially if its the arcade its OKAY to rape it. why would there be a bar then?
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Dancing Dan · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:50 pm Post subject:

I thought the bar was for saftey.....but anyways i think the reason so many people are afraid to bar it is because it truthfully takes more stamnia to beat a song NOT using the bar than using the bar, however using the bar is still no problem, it just makes things easier. Some people who can A or AA any of the maxes and PS PSMO i noticed sometimes get ticked off at bar huggers cuz the mentality seems to be "Well i had to work so hard without the bar to A it, why are they getting praise for using the bar and doing better?" At least thats what ive noticed. But i still think bar is fine, i do it every once and a while when i do any of the maxes or PS or PSMO etc.
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Tekked · Trick Member Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Location: Enigma 100%

It really depends on where you play. In Montana, for instance, you can rape, rape, rape all you want, but if you were caught raping the bar in, say, California, you might get exiled from the arcade.

*I think this post makes me a Trick member.

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Just because it makes sense...does that really make it true?

Frank09872 · Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Bad!

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Zukin-Man · Trick Member Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Location: War Agony

It's a matter of opinion. It's true that, in most cases, it makes playing much easier because you don't have to worry as much about balance or supporting your weight with your legs.

Personally, I look down on the bar, but I don't flame anyone for using it. I do, however, refuse to give anyone credit for anything they do that requires use of the bar. I also get disappointed by how many people use the bar, and how much praise they get for doing so. Bar rapers and the PSMO whorefests that follow are the main reasons I've nearly dropped out of tournaments.

That's them, however. I can't change the way they play, so the best I can do is adapt. Everyone has their opinion. Location is somewhat of an influence, though. If one habit is used in one area, it could spread more throughout that same area.

I've yammered enough. That's just my yuan's worth.
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