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0. PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:29 am    Post subject: Why do we have Tournament Discussion? Reply with quote

It seems rather pointless, since there's always a concurrent thread in the appropriate Regional board.
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1. PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always wanted to know too, why is there a Tournament Discussion?

Why have the entire country know whats going on in just 1 state or city or area when they know they can't go to most tournaments being held. And it makes more sense to me that tournaments are disscused in regional boards, since only the people living around 50 miles or so of the tournament would be able to go.

Unless it's a huge tournament, which encouages people from around the country or to join in.

I have no reason to go to that Tournament Discussion section of the board. If I want to know about tournaments that are going on, I just go to my regional board, since they aren't very far from me and I don't care about what goes on in the rest of the country, since theres no way I will go hundreds of miles for a tournament. Does anyone else?
Shouldn't the ddr fans just care about what goes on in their area?
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2. PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one of the reasons the tournament discussion board is there is to discuss the running of a tournament. there are some useful resources in that forum. but overall though, I'm not too sure I see the entire point of the forum anymore. I think maybe the Cali people use it a lot more than anybody else does though.
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3. PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are more aspects to the Tournament Discussion forum than I think you're looking at.

There have been a number of threads (not as many recently) discussing the different aspects of how tournaments are run. Each different format has it's own pros and cons and the Tournament Discussion forum is a good place to toss out those ideas before solidifying them in the creation of a tournament thread.

That being said, I think things have really quieted down in Tournament Discussion to the point where we could probably consolidate it down and use just the regional boards for it.

Fellow mods/admins: Thoughts?
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4. PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IguanaGrrl wrote:

Fellow mods/admins: Thoughts?


I don't think the tournament forum is necessary. People know to check the regional boards for tourney info. If there is a huge tournament that might attract people outside the region it could be put in a headline.

I think that maybe a FAQ should be written about how to run a tournament and describing the different types. That and/or put a sticky for tournament suggestions in the Gameplay forum...
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5. PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IguanaGrrl wrote:
Fellow mods/admins: Thoughts?


I am once again indifferent. Make a thread on the mod forum?

If we do get rid of it, we're definitely going to need to give a window of leeway and make an announcement in that forum, so people can be sure to copy over all the info they need from there.
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6. PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say keep it.

Many tournament organizers like myself have a forum where they can look at other formats and see how tournaments are ran. That's why I like the tourney discussion forum.

If we keep tourney posts to the regional forums...I know I'll probably visit the Southwest thread like once ever, and if I don't visit, I wouldn't know they're giving away an Extreme machine in November. That would be the case if the tourney discussion forum is booted.

I think the tourney thread has slow traffic because stuff like freestyling tips and PA tips and prize distribution tips, which help in times of tournaments, is not located in the tourney thread, but in DDR Gameplay.

I have two suggestions...

1. Direct tourney organizers to post tournament rules/schedule/etc. in the tourney forum, don't have them post in their regional forum.

Then, in the regional forums, have one sticky that is constantly updated with tournament names/dates/times, and the link to the post in the tourney forum where they can get the rules/prize info.

2. Do vice versa. Post a notice of a tournament in the tourney forum, and have a link to a post of the rules, located in the respective regional forum.

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Superstar Player wrote:
Why have the entire country know whats going on in just 1 state or city or area when they know they can't go to most tournaments being held.


Because if there's a glaring mistake in how a PA or FS or Challenge winner is determined, then someone can point it out. I'll use the Fiddlesticks (Ariz.) tournament as an example. If it wasn't posted in the tourney thread and only posted in the Southwest thread, players wouldn't be in an uproar over the way they are making people battle for an Extreme machine.
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7. PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say integrate the tournaments going on with the events section. Do away with the tournament discussion that has to do with gameplay. Any tournaments going on would be in the events section linked to the appriopriate thread in the regional forum.
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8. PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Game II of AIM wrote:
I have two suggestions...

1. Direct tourney organizers to post tournament rules/schedule/etc. in the tourney forum, don't have them post in their regional forum.

Then, in the regional forums, have one sticky that is constantly updated with tournament names/dates/times, and the link to the post in the tourney forum where they can get the rules/prize info.

2. Do vice versa. Post a notice of a tournament in the tourney forum, and have a link to a post of the rules, located in the respective regional forum.


1. I kind of like this idea.. it would cut back on the number of stickied tourney threads in each region. However (in SE at least) there are a lot of tounaments, and it might become a hassle, more-so to the posters than mods, to constantly have to keep checking the one thread to see if their tournament (or the one in their area) has been updated. Granted we could post the last update in the links in that thread..

2. While I think the posters might like this idea better.. it would eventually cause too much excess traffic and confusion. For one, there would still be the same amount of stickied tounament threads in each region.. and the same people who never go to Tournament Discussion still won't.. why would they need to if there's a thread about it in their reagion?

Personally, I like the idea of either making a stickied (locked) thread in each region with links to the Tournament Discussion board, or just phasing out TD altogether. Only purpose I see TD serving is for announcing huge national tournaments, or just really big ones in general (like the one Jason talked about in Mod Chat), which, if we DO decide to use Jason's idea.. TD would be essentially pointless to have.

More I think about it, the more I like the idea of the one thread in each region. I think I'll make a poll in SE to see how everyone there feels about it. And a mod from each regional thread could do the same.. then maybe we could make a final vote for it in mod chat. This would be a good step towards all the mods working together on something to help improve the site.

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9. PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here's my opinion.
It may have changed, so bear with me.

I say that the Tournament Discussion board is a good thing.
If not for that board, I may never have gotten as many people as I did to attend last years Southwest Showdown (which obviously included people from out of town).
This year, I created the topic, and then had it stickied and locked. (All there was were basic rules, the PA prizes (teasers E13.gif ), and a link to the SW forum thread.)

The tournament discussion board is VERY good for people who may be wanting to vacation and also want to see what's going on. Sure, if you know where you're vacationing, you can just look in it's region, but typically, more information (and events) are in the TD board.

Believe me, this is an on-going debate, and we're trying to come to an agreement biggrin.gif.
A few other related topics are thrown in the mix too (ala. the headline note that Mr. SD mentioned), so we have to sort all the small things out to get to the big thing.

One suggestion was (exactly as Superstar Player put it) to leave the TD board as strictly discussion and not announcements.

We shall see soon enough (I hope E10.gif).
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10. PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr·self·Ðestruct wrote:
The Game II of AIM wrote:
I have two suggestions...

1. Direct tourney organizers to post tournament rules/schedule/etc. in the tourney forum, don't have them post in their regional forum.

Then, in the regional forums, have one sticky that is constantly updated with tournament names/dates/times, and the link to the post in the tourney forum where they can get the rules/prize info.

2. Do vice versa. Post a notice of a tournament in the tourney forum, and have a link to a post of the rules, located in the respective regional forum.
1. I kind of like this idea.. it would cut back on the number of stickied tourney threads in each region. However (in SE at least) there are a lot of tounaments, and it might become a hassle, more-so to the posters than mods, to constantly have to keep checking the one thread to see if their tournament (or the one in their area) has been updated. Granted we could post the last update in the links in that thread..

2. While I think the posters might like this idea better.. it would eventually cause too much excess traffic and confusion. For one, there would still be the same amount of stickied tounament threads in each region.. and the same people who never go to Tournament Discussion still won't.. why would they need to if there's a thread about it in their reagion?

Personally, I like the idea of either making a stickied (locked) thread in each region with links to the Tournament Discussion board, or just phasing out TD altogether. Only purpose I see TD serving is for announcing huge national tournaments, or just really big ones in general (like the one Jason talked about in Mod Chat), which, if we DO decide to use Jason's idea.. TD would be essentially pointless to have.
Couldn't this be accomplished by first creating individual tournament threads in each Regional board, and then moving the tournament threads from the regional boards to the Tournament forum, creating Shadow Topics in the threads for the threads? That way, there's a single unified thread for each tournament, and once the tournament has ended and discussions has died down, the Shadow Topic will disappear from the Regional forum.
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11. PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be a good way to work the 'one tournament thread' idea into each region. Like you said, once each tounament is over, the topics will die off, at which point we can impliment the tourney thread from then on.

I've set up a poll in the SE, and while there's only been like 2 votes so far, they're both yes =P
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