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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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TwitchingMan wrote:
When I put the metal contacts on the plexiglass with Spray adhesive, they got this dirty kind of consistancy on the side where there was no adhesive. I've tried scraping it off, but that's such a hassle .. Anyone know a good solution for getting spray adhesive off sheet metal?


If you have a jigsaw with a sander attachment, try using that. That should work. And if not, go with the razorblade and steel wool. That razor blade might be a little bit like the old fingernails on the chalkboard though so watch out.
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ArCHoNwArP wrote:

One of the problems was that the arrows constantly required tons of force to activate (fixed by removing all weatherstrippin inside the contact square and adding more to the corners).


I looked at your pictures of the pad on your site

http://www.geocities.com/coolhomieg/

and I noticed you didn't use screws going down through the brackets. The screws tighten the whole "arrow sandwich" so that it doesn't take a ton of force to activate. Try adding the screws, it should make a big difference.


I had screwed down and it caused a short everytime I did. I used smaller screws, and it just clamped it so tight that it constantly stuck. I now have the back corner brackets (that hold the thing in) removed, and it's working decently....
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Just thought I'd make my first post to say I'm building my pad and I have a new source for RipTide's videos. They can be found here. ftp://ddrpad:[email protected]

Just my part to give back and help relieve the load. They are on a 2Mb connection, but are throttled so they can stay there once the leeching begins. As with others, if you get a cannot connect error it means the server is full and you should try again later.

enjoy.

Of course while you're looking you might as well check the entire site, Mametrix Reloaded .
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Well I always read this topic everyday, so yeah you can still ask questions.


I am almost done with a pad I am shipping to NJ then 3 more to make atfer that
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Blue Beefman, I've been unable to find more info about your contact design other than you use brackets versus screws. I read this entire thread, and was going to read the older threads, but they no longer exist. I noticed earlier in this thread, Joe said that you and him were going to create an FAQ concerning your pad design... but that never happened, correct? Is there any intention on still making one? Thanks for your time.
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I'm currently building some homepads mostly off riptide's design and using some things from blue beefman's... I'm just about done. All that I have left to do on this one is really to solder. All of my sensor stuff is done. biggrin.gif I'm just thinking of some ways to improve the design for future pads.

One of the things that i thought about is that the corner braces in the arcade pads do not have anything under them, other than hold in the arrow. While they are quite a bit more sturdy than the ones you usually get at the hardware store, I'm trying to figure out a way to reinforce them w/o cutting wood blocks. One thought that popped into my head is using hex nuts right under the bracket, so it would push up on the screw holes, and have the screw go deeper into the 2x4. It would require some longer screws and i'm not sure if hex nuts have the proper threading, but just an idea.

If the corners could be mostly hollow, it would greatly lessen binding issues, and issues where the arrow could pop out, not to mention time saved for skipping making 16 precise triangle wood blocks, time for adjusting the plexiglass to fit properly, so on and so forth. An open-bracket design would be great if it could work right...
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DrSatan wrote:
I'm currently building some homepads mostly off riptide's design and using some things from blue beefman's... I'm just about done. All that I have left to do on this one is really to solder. All of my sensor stuff is done. biggrin.gif I'm just thinking of some ways to improve the design for future pads.

One of the things that i thought about is that the corner braces in the arcade pads do not have anything under them, other than hold in the arrow. While they are quite a bit more sturdy than the ones you usually get at the hardware store, I'm trying to figure out a way to reinforce them w/o cutting wood blocks. One thought that popped into my head is using hex nuts right under the bracket, so it would push up on the screw holes, and have the screw go deeper into the 2x4. It would require some longer screws and i'm not sure if hex nuts have the proper threading, but just an idea.

If the corners could be mostly hollow, it would greatly lessen binding issues, and issues where the arrow could pop out, not to mention time saved for skipping making 16 precise triangle wood blocks, time for adjusting the plexiglass to fit properly, so on and so forth. An open-bracket design would be great if it could work right...


Yes, the corner wood pieces would be one thing I would remove from my design if I could come up with another way to hold the brackets in place. Really, the only thing that would change with this setup would be to prevent the builder from having to cut all the wood blocks. I don't think it would change the amount of cutting/trimming/shaping of the acrylic that has to be done since you're still going to have to have screws going through the top down to secure them. There are a couple of things I have thought of to change that part of the design, but I haven't actually looked for parts to pull it off.

what would be ideal is to have a brace underneath the corner braces that could be drilled into the wood at the base of the brace and then at the top of the brace, use nuts with mechanical screws with smaller thread and a flat tip instead of the wider thread and pointed tip wood screws. However, this would still pretty much block that corner off, and you'd still have to cut the plexiglass into octagons.

If you find anything to pull this off, please let me know.
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hey guys, I have been planning fora while to build a pad for home.. the people that own the local arcade are selling our DDR machine and we dont want to be without it or a sustitute for it for too long...

Anyway i have looked into a few of the designs and have decided that i might try using an idea similar to the pictures on this site http://www.rufus3.com/ddr/mmb.html its one of those metal pads that you buy in a kit form....

Anyway i will be using mostly stuff from riptides design, btw, great work on those videos it really made it so much easier to understand.

Anyway back to the point, i am thinking of using a desgn similar to that on that web page... i know it probably cant be lit but we dont really care we just want to play DDR on a nice sturdy pad and i was thinking that this design would make for an exelent strong pad...

As i had to take into consideration some of the larger people that will be using it...

Anyway if anyone has any ideas or comments they would like to hear i would love to hear them.
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I did realize that you would still have to cut off the corners, but my point is that it wouldn't have to be as precise and the need to retrim it would be significantly less. One problem though about the machining screws is that they don't hold well in wood :\ One thing that i thought of is sacrificing a few screws to forcefully modify the threading on the hex nut. *Sigh* If only i could find some hex nuts for wood-type threading...
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I don't think you completely conveyed what I was thinking. I don't want to put the machine screws through the wood. I want to put a support into the wood using wood screws and that support would either receive the machine screws itself or you could use a nut with the support to bind the corner brace to the support.

So the support has two functions... one is to replace the wood block, and two is to serve as a transition from the wood to metal to allow machine screws to be used.... I just need to find something like that.
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You may have said this before but i dont feel like sifting through 43 pages so.... How much did it cost you to make your metal pad? If its under 100 i may consider it.
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YAY! mY pad is finally finished. It's not the best looking pad, but it's responsive enough to get less than 70 greats on "Era (nostal mix)". All I'm having trouble is PAing stuff now. Would it be better if I put the timing to 0 instead of +2 on DDRMAX?
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Iv pretty much decided to build a pad but cant decide.

Which would you recommend?

DDRhomepad
riptide
bluebeefman

I dont plan to use any lights. I just want one that is responsive and is simple to fix if ( or should i say when biggrin.gif ) something goes wrong.

Any advice would be appreciated and does anyone know the price to build the riptide? I think ddrhomepad and beefmans costed around 130ish.
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Yeah, I did read that wrong. It does seem to be more complicated though. It would be very convienient to just put a nut under the braces and then screw it into the wood. disgust.gif My pad is done now and I do like how it is working, I'm just looking for ways to improve on an excellent design.
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Sorry, I made the post above with my friend's account [cidarom]... I didn't realize that he was still logged in.
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The problem is that I don't think you're going to find a nut that will receive a wood screw. Pretty much any nut you're going to find is going to be designed to accept a machine screw.
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riptide wrote:
I don't think you completely conveyed what I was thinking. I don't want to put the machine screws through the wood. I want to put a support into the wood using wood screws and that support would either receive the machine screws itself or you could use a nut with the support to bind the corner brace to the support.

So the support has two functions... one is to replace the wood block, and two is to serve as a transition from the wood to metal to allow machine screws to be used.... I just need to find something like that.


I thought that you could use 2 corner brace like... 1 upside down drilled into the wood and the other drilled on the side of the other corner brace (bind them a bit to fit 1 into the other) so you could use squarre peice of plexiglass. I didnt try it but i just tought about it. And I realized that if you drill the other on the side you got screw that will block teh plexi... but with a "rivet" you could do something i think ... it could hold them togeter without blocking plexiglass[/url]
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does anybody know what kind of wood that pratster uses for the bottom of his pad??
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3/4 inch plywood. This is also the metal panel wood size.
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Im making a all metal pad, i have all the measurements i need to make the pad except the buttons. anyone have an idea the measurement from the first steel plate to the last peace of lucite?

any help on this would be helpful

measurements i have so far are (33 x 33 x 1) (L x W x H)
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