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0.  Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:56 pm Post subject: Memory Card FAQ v1.4 - Link Data Converter v1.0 Released! |
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I've removed the FAQ from the forums, now that we publish it directly to the website. This way, I don't have to worry about incongruity between versions.
Click here to read the FAQ.
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Ni-ban Neko
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| 1. Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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This is a teensy bit off-topic, but I'm going to let it fly anyway.
Let's say I made a DWI for a song that's on Extreme - we'll say V, for simplicity's sake. I don't guess there's an application or some easy method for converting a DWI to something a memory card would take, aside from recreating it when the JP home version of Ex comes out?
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Cutriss
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| 2. Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Well, it's theoretically possible, but there's the issue of the DWI delay factor, since a converter would have no easy way to know if the delay value is system-reliant, a hodgepodge for the edit (IE - a delay value that is excessively long just to insert an artificial delay for the steps themselves), or just an adjustment for the ripping of the MP3.
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Isaru
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| 3. Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| In regards to the dex drive, I don't have one and I don't think they are even sold anymore. Do you know if I would be able to use one of those ps2 sharkport/X-port devices? |
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Cutriss
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| 4. Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, they're relatively easy to find on eBay. I just checked, and there are seven DexDrive listings right now.
I recommend the DexDrive, primarily because PSXGameEdit is built specifically for it and other PS1 memory card kits. I can understand people not wanting to track one down just for this though...and it does require a serial port, which means that some newer PC owners would be out of luck...
I don't have a PS2 SharkPort, so let's try this - Take a PS1 file, copy it to your PS2 memory card, and use the SharkPort to extract it. Does it treat it exactly as a PS2 save (.xpo extension)?
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| 5. Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Great FAQ. 
You might want to put that Dexdrive eBay link in the FAQ.
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Cutriss
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| 6. Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| skip-a-dee-doo-dah wrote: | | Great FAQ. |
Thanks.  | skip-a-dee-doo-dah wrote: | | You might want to put that Dexdrive eBay link in the FAQ. |
Done and done. 
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SoN o ToM
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| 7. Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I know that with 8th mix you cannot save all the data for everysong onto 1 memory card, but is it like that with 7th mix also or can u save every song data onto 1 memory card?
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Cutriss
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| 8. Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| SoN o ToM wrote: | | I know that with 8th mix you cannot save all the data for everysong onto 1 memory card, but is it like that with 7th mix also or can u save every song data onto 1 memory card? |
I was discussing this with Catastrophe a little while back. Last I remember, there's a limit on the number of records that you can store on the memory card, and that limit is 176. As I recall, this was individual records, be they for single or double, regardless of difficulty...So a score for Kakumei on Single Trick would take up one slot, and a score for MaxX Unlimited Double Heavy would take up one slot, giving you 174 slots.
In thinking about it since, however, I've looked at my own Link Data save. As near as I can tell, there's actually space for 176 *songs*, not records. There's enough space in the area where the scores are stored such that all six score pairings could be stored with room to spare (Light/Standard/Heavy on Single/Double). This is far from official, though, and other people know better than me. This is actually something I'm going to be looking at in detail in the near future, so unless someone else posts here with more accurate info than what I have, I'll probably go figure it out myself.
At any rate, if the answer is 176 *records*, then no, there is not sufficient space to store records for all the songs in Max2. If the answer is 176 *songs*, then the answer is "Yes". Max2 has around 130 songs available in Normal game mode.
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| 9. Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:49 am Post subject: |
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thank you
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| 10. Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Updated with Paint and Internet Ranking Data.
Also, I learned some thingies about 2nd/3rd Mix Arcade. I'll have to get my mitts on a copy of 2nd ReMix sometime. Unfortunately, I won't be getting my hands on a 2nd or 3rd Mix arcade machine with memory card slots anytime soon.  I'll have to coordinate with someone who goes to Dance Beat Arcade.
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| 11. Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| 12. Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Well, it depends on what you want to do.
In theory, the SharkPort and X-Port both work with PS1 memory saves, if for no other reason than the fact that you can copy PS1 saves to the PS2 memory card. However, they use different file extensions, and most likely, different file formats.
In theory, it would not be difficult at all for someone to write a tool that converts .GME saves to .XPS (X-Port save) and back. All you need to do is to have both a DexDrive and an X-Port/SharkPort (they're pretty much the same device), and diff the two files, and write software that recognizes one and converts to the other.
However, the fact that I can't find a tool to do this anywhere, and the fact that the X-Port and SharkPort have only been on the market for a little over three or four months, lends me to believe that it's either more difficult than meets the eye, or just not an interesting project to anyone.
I might see if I can pick up a SharkPort on the cheap and look at this problem myself.
EDIT - Well, I've just bought one on eBay, so I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks, eh?
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| 13. Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Cutriss, this is good stuff. If you contacted me, I would have stickied this sooner.
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Cutriss
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| 14. Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Phrekwenci wrote: | | Cutriss, this is good stuff. If you contacted me, I would have stickied this sooner. |
's okay. I didn't want to ask.
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| 15. Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:58 pm Post subject: asdf |
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I love using my memory card(s) at the arcade, much fun.
I have a question, I have 3 or so memory cards I use for DDR edits and I wanna know if I put both my memory cards in but play on on singles play will the machine read both memory cards and let me play edits from both of them?
One more, the owner of the machine near me with memory card slots purchased a new flash rom card (or something like that) and put it and can store edits, but the owner has to be there to save them to the card.Is there anyway you know of to get around this? |
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Cutriss
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| 16. Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:29 am Post subject: Re: asdf |
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| LaikaComeHome wrote: | I love using my memory card(s) at the arcade, much fun.
I have a question, I have 3 or so memory cards I use for DDR edits and I wanna know if I put both my memory cards in but play on on singles play will the machine read both memory cards and let me play edits from both of them? |
I'm pretty sure this is not the case. I haven't tested it myself, but if you're not playing in Versus or Doubles, I don't think the game will even bother to read the slot corresponding to the unused player. Next time I go to an arcade with MC slots, I'll give this a whirl. | LaikaComeHome wrote: | | One more, the owner of the machine near me with memory card slots purchased a new flash rom card (or something like that) and put it and can store edits, but the owner has to be there to save them to the card.Is there anyway you know of to get around this? |
As in, to get around this without his knowledge? That depends on the other arcade employees. Use of the Flash ROM card can be enabled/disabled in the operator menu, so if you have one of the other employees enable it while he's not around, then that works.
You should probably just talk to him and find out why he won't let people save edits at whim, though. The only way it can really be "exploited" is for players to save edits to the machine with an offensive title to it. Considering the trouble one would have to go through to do that sort of thing (and that you're only given eight letters to do it), I really don't think it'd be that much of a problem...And he could always inspect the edits list every morning during opening...It'd take less time than he probably puts in manually enabling/disabling the Flash ROM just so that he can verify that your edits are kid-safe.
Remember - It takes a willful act just to get to the edit menu, and on any given mix, there's from 100 to 200 songs on there...plus Single versus Double (playing Double will only allow Doubles edits to be displayed)...So if we're talking a Max2 machine, with one edit planted somewhere with a bad title, there's a 1:274 chance that people are going to stumble on it (neglecting song popularity). Within less than 24 hours, it'd be gone again, so it's just not that likely that it would bother anyone.
Hope that helps!
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| 17. Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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question.
I dont have access to a Imported 5th mix. and i would like to create some edit steps to Rythem and Police. but i only have a US DDRMAX. is it possible to have a PSX mem card save a DDRMAX Edit file?
2nd Question
All i need to do is just stick a brand new PSX card into the machine (DDREX) and it will read it and set up a space for it?
last question
when i create and Edit onto the PSX card, all i have to do is just plug it into the machine and it will have that for me when i get to the song?
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Cutriss
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| 18. Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| JW51886JS7 wrote: | question.
I dont have access to a Imported 5th mix. and i would like to create some edit steps to Rythem and Police. but i only have a US DDRMAX. is it possible to have a PSX mem card save a DDRMAX Edit file? |
Yes, but it'll be somewhat complicated. DDRMAX can export Edits to a PS1 memory card, but once you've done that, you'll still need to get the file on a computer so that you can do the Edit Hacking technique described above. | JW51886JS7 wrote: | 2nd Question
All i need to do is just stick a brand new PSX card into the machine (DDREX) and it will read it and set up a space for it? |
That depends on what you're asking. Are you trying to use Edit Data? If so, as long as you've done the Edit Hacking, you should be good.
If you're trying to use Link Data, then you need to create System New Link Data first, either by downloading it and using a memory card reader, or by using 5th Mix. | JW51886JS7 wrote: | last question
when i create and Edit onto the PSX card, all i have to do is just plug it into the machine and it will have that for me when i get to the song?
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Provided you follow the instructions above. When you get to the song selection screen, hit  and the Edit Selection menu will open up, showing available edits. If you see yours there, then it worked.
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| 19. Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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NOTICE FOR SHARKPORT/X-PORT USERS:
The SharkPort/X-Port does *not* work with PS1 saves, but I'm pretty sure I know why, and I'm working on fixing it.
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