I Hate EuroMAX 2

Phil ver0 · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 9:12 am Post subject: I Hate EuroMAX 2

http://ddruk.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=401

I bet someone had brought this up before.

But, when I went through the gallery, the scores, the grades. Make me think why KOE went soft on them.

If it was like that in Japan, everybody would be AA MAX300 and MAXx

Tenaciousmonk · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:20 am Post subject:

Yeah that is kinda lame. I don't see why they hadda mess around with the scoring.
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cfusionpm · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA

wow.
on a 10 foot song,
score of 87xxxxxx =/= AA
score of 87xxxxxx = low A, or high B
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TL · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:07 pm Post subject:

the japanese dont think europeans are worse players then americans and them, do they?

Ike Pie · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject:

Trance Of Sorrow · Trick Member Joined: 01 Feb 2003

I never really liked any of the Dance Stage/Euro Mix crap anyway. Crappy songs I will never hear of, thank God I won't be playin those anytime soon. The Result screen looks lame compared to the Japan/USA one.

TL · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:43 pm Post subject:

TL · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:46 pm Post subject:

euromix 2 has the max2 theme though.

ddr these days is mainly about PA and stuff, and the japanese just make it easy for the europeans to do that stuff. a total WTF deal there.

Ike Pie · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 3:48 pm Post subject:

wait... Did you edit when you relized I said "(arcade)"? Or were I seeing things?

ADHD Goten · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jun 2002 Location: Where am I?!

Wow... I can do better than that on Max 300 when I only do half of the song..
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Aven-G · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:21 pm Post subject:

I always thought DDR EuroMix was a waste of work and time. Some of the songs weren't even European! Makes me wonder why they didn't make a DDR USAMIX. Heh, USMIX (United States Mix), that sounds funny

. Back to topic, what's so special about European music anyway? Just because of the cool nickname "Euro"? I mean, it's just music from a different continent. Why do they blow off valuable time for a dumb EuroMix?

kman · Trick Member Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas

Konami obviously didn't realize that there were serious good players in Europe.

Or they made it easy, the same way that 1st and 2nd Mix were pretty easy.

Or their culture assumes that other races are inferior and can't keep up with the Japanese scoring system.

Phil ver0 · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:01 am Post subject:

Wow.............

http://ddruk.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=264

I wish I could do that.

the only pic in this gallery that was just good to me was....

http://ddruk.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=368

Larrikin · Contributor Joined: 17 Feb 2002 Location: Illadelphia

I'm such a geek but anyway according to my ddr calculator program he got an 82.35%
AA = 93% and up
A = 92.9999 - 80

So yeah barely an A, what a crap grading system. We thought we got it easy with the DDRMAXUSA AA grading.
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Smbu |LÂ©| · Trick Member Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Location: California

Holy crap, he did terrible on the song. The grading system sure is messed up on those machines. Hell, I know if I get 2 misses on Max300 then my chances of AA'ing it are very very low. He had freaking 9!!! Not counting the insanely high number of other non-combo steps and the high great count. Hell I can do better than that w/o the bar and I still only get an A on it. hahaha.

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altinure · Trick Member Joined: 29 Jun 2002 Location: wisconsin

EuroMix 2 has Aaron's Party, though, so it's all okay.

<sings> I always try to be the flyest kid on the block....

LoopyChew · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Switzerland

Jesus CHRIST, don't you people have anything better to do than to rag on a mix because of a single fscking SCORING SYSTEM?! If you're going to rag on a mix, rag on it because of stuff like, oh, I dunno, bad songs, or arrows being off-sync, or every time you try to choose Let Them Move Basic the screen explodes or SOMETHING, but the scoring system? Give me a break.

Reasons I don't like EuroMix 2:

1. 5, 6, 7, 8. I'm not skipping numbers here, it's a song. A very, very overplayed song.
2. Cotton-Eye Joe. Especially this one. If I hear one more preppygirl play either this song or the previously-listed one on beginner THREE TIMES IN A DAMN ROW, I will be more than happy to demonstrate the concept of justifiable homicide.
3. Lack of Oni courses.

Reasons I love EuroMix 2:

1. Exotic Ethnic.
2. Healing Vision Angelic Mix.
3. Max300 (though I can't get past it yet).
4. So Deep.
5+. Insert most of the other songs here; you get the idea.

Regardless of how I'm being scored, whether it's being loose or tight or whatever, this mix is FUN. A great variety of songs here for just about anyone and everyone (yes, including those damn teenyboppers). It might not be Extreme, but it sure as hell is better than any of the non-Japan releases.

You're forgetting that not everyone in the world is about PA. Has it ever occurred to you that some people are simply playing it for the sake of playing it? I strive to be better than I am right now; I don't need a grading system to tell me whether I'm excelling or failing, I just need the count of perfects/greats/etc.

Besides which, you never know--maybe EuroMix's perfect window was tweaked, making it that much harder to get a perfect. Doubtful, but unless you've hardcoded this stuff in, who are you to say?

And don't tell me that this guy getting an AA when he should've gotten an A by any means turns him into a crap player. Why bother belittling his accomplishment? I doubt a lot of the posters here could do what he did. I'm still striving to pass it myself, as listed above.

This whole superiority shit makes me sick, quite frankly. And it takes a lot to make me sick.

My mind's going all over the place right now. To sum up: 1. This guy still managed to do at LEAST decently on Max300. Maybe it ain't an accomplishment to you guys, but to people like me who aren't that good yet, I respect what he's done. And 2. The scores don't make the game. If they did, I'd be bashing Konamix for effectively making it so that the only scores Joe Decent DDR Player will get are B's or C's.

Lighten up on EuroMix. Don't be a hater. After all, it's something that people can play, and it's better than nothing.

Suwami: Just because it's called EuroMix doesn't mean it's a mix made exclusively of European songs; it just means it's a DDR mix designed for Europeans to play.
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NW330 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:16 pm Post subject:

I'd actually love to play with that scoring system. It would make me feel special to AA Max 300(cause I can get a little better than that pic) even though the scoring system is different.

Phil ver0 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:27 pm Post subject:

[quote="LoopyChew"]Jesus CHRIST, don't you people have anything better to do than to rag on a mix because of a single fscking SCORING SYSTEM?! If you're going to rag on a mix, rag on it because of stuff like, oh, I dunno, bad songs, or arrows being off-sync, or every time you try to choose Let Them Move Basic the screen explodes or SOMETHING, but the scoring system? Give me a break.

ok. Since you said on the songs...........

Cotton Eye Joe - I'm sorry, no one have a right to call Crash a crapy song after hearing this. Ok, I don't have to go into the rest of the song list.

Next....Songs ratings........80% of the songs or either 6 or 7 on heavy