(Pop'n) Controller Making (warning, some large pictures)

CatchyPhraseOwen

Hey guys, I have a lot of time on my hands this summer, and I know this is going to sound pretty dumb initially, but I think I want to make a Pop'n Music "ASC" for myself. ANYWAYS, I saw this auction on YJ while I was messing around there, and it was for Pop'n 6, 7, and this guy's custom Pop'n Music controller. Here's the part you guys are gonna laugh at though: I've been playing for less than a month. I can already tell that this will be my favorite Bemani though, I initially started to branch out from DDR, and I already love it. I'm not great, but I'd really like to make a controller. I could probably afford an ASC, but I'd rather make one because I feel it would be more rewarding. It'd make a good project, and I'd like to try. Anyways, does anyone have a machine's dimensions for the controller? How about the Pop'n ASC? Also, what controller stuff goes where? Hell, any help would be good, so anyone who's had any experience building IIDX controllers, DDR, and (especially) Pop'ns can help me out. Here's some pictures of what he had, and of the ASC, etc.

I'm not shooting for any look in particular, but I would like to get the size sorta accurate. I may go for anything for the casing, buttons, etc., but I would like some sort of color either on the buttons like the home controller/home ASC, or around them like that dude's home-made one. Thanks a lot guys, hope you can help

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-What skills do I need to make one? Will it involve soldering, incredible electrical knowledge, etc?

iidx-Nick · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

We have a Pop'n Music thread for a reason.

CatchyPhraseOwen · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 2:00 pm Post subject:

Okay, but I didn't figure that it would be very useful there... You don't see the custom DDR Pad topic in just a random DDR thread, do you? Since it is pretty much a separate topic, and I believe I am following the rules by posting it here, as well. I don't see why you should have an issue about me making a thread on it though o_O...

I quote from this sections FAQ:

iidx-Nick · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

I was kidding, bud. Can't believe you wasted ten minutes writing up that long post.

Kerf · Trick Member Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Location: ISZK LAND

Looks cool..

SuPa |LÂ©| · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 4:43 pm Post subject:

Well now, I think that statement pretty much justifies this thread. PepsiBlueOwen wins this round.

I'll post up measurements when I get off from work today.
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CatchyPhraseOwen · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:20 pm Post subject:

Sorry dude, no hard feelings... I'm just a bit newbish here and I thought you weren't kidding, but it doesn't really matter since this is just the internet... Or something like that. Anyways, I'd really appreciate the measurements, and I found the button setup on my Pop'n 7 (8 should have been here by now -_-), and I'll post it since I'm hoping other people will want to build Pop'n ASCs too! The "diagram" is up!

Here we have our totally sweet Pop'n ASC! Wow! I gave the buttons letters for easier controller-thingy distribution.. Or whatever you want to call it. Let's call the white button on the far bottom left letter "A", and the yellow, one space over, "B". I keep on going down the controller like this assigning the letters to the buttons, making the final white on the end letter "I". Think you got it? The middle red is "E". Let's move on!

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Okay, now I'll give each one the correct distribution on a standard Sony Playstation or Playstation 2 gaming console.

I think I got this right, I just checked and this should be okay! The image is now up!

Tenaciousmonk · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:09 pm Post subject:

Actually I don't think he was kidding, I meen, when most people are wrong they don't like to admit it, and it wasn't a very funny thing to kid about anyways... but, that's besides the point.

Yeah, if you make a good pop'n music controller, make sure to write down instructions on how you made it. People seem to be willing to pay for instructions, or at least pay people to make them controllers, since nobody wants to pay the rediculous price for the ASC.
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Tenaciousmonk · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:35 pm Post subject:

*confused* so you were implying that he should use it sarcasticly? aw huh... mright. I don't wanna get into an argument about it though, so I shut up now.

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CatchyPhraseOwen · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:20 pm Post subject:

Uh, I'm not sure it matters... This is the internet. Anyways, if I can make my controller look and play good, I may take it upon myself to start a small buisiness making them, but right now I only want to get seriously started on mine. What I think I need to do next is buy one of those mother freakingly ghetto controllers for like PSX and get some soldering done. I'm going to do it on the same principle like the DDR home pad and his arcade-controller-making buddies do. I'll need to buy the iron and some solder, which I believe is easy to find. I will probably buy a cheap, low-watt iron from Home Depot, and some Solder from radio shack as that was what was recommended. I'll then need some wire, and I cannot remember for the life of me where I'll get this, but I'll check around for a bit. That may be the easy part though; designing the box and buttons sounds a lot harder. There is no way in hell that I am shelling out $80 plus to some website for some Pop'n buttons; oh no. I'm going to somehow come up with some good-looking ones on my own lol. I really am digging that YJ guy's controller style and button shiznit, so I may start to copy that. With any luck, mine will turn out almost as good, 'cept I don't think I'm going to try to make mine light up unless it's a lot easier than it sounds. I've gone about 36 hours without sleep now, and it's getting hard to read the screen, so it's bed-time for this caffine-ladden teenager, but I'll try and get the iron and stuff and post updates tomorrow.

Tenaciousmonk · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:50 am Post subject:

CatchyPhraseOwen · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:25 pm Post subject:

No, $80 is not too much on the scale. But $80 is an f-load of cash for 9 pieces of plastic. I bet I can find some quality buttons that are comparable to the official Pop'ns for a lot less.

CStarFlare · Maniac Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

SuPa |LÂ©| · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 5:31 pm Post subject:

CatchyPhraseOwen · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject:

You'd better

. Anyways, I got a soldering iron today, for $9.99 at Radio Shack. It's a dual-watt thingy that does 15 W (the heat you need for electronics) and 30 W which is like hard-core industrial strength. I bought 2 containers of Rosin-Core solder, which was Radio Shack brand (I believe) for $1.50 a piece. I also bought some hook-up wire for soldering to the cheap-o controller which I also found there for $9.99. I will post pictures of all of this stuff as soon as I can, but I've got a buddy over so it might not be till tonight.

-CStar, glad to hear you like it, as soon as it's done and styling, I'll give you instructions for making one your own! Hope you love that Pop'n Best Hits!

Milza · Trick Member Joined: 05 Oct 2002

Well I made my own PnM controller out of a keyboard and a bunch of tennis balls and posted about it in the controller thread...

CatchyPhraseOwen · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 6:36 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I checked that, but I want something for my home consoler... I like the tennis ball idea, but I want mine to be really sleak and sexy.. >_<!

SuPa |LÂ©| · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:56 pm Post subject:

I just wanted you guys to know that I didn't forget about measuring the ASC. However, I can't find a measuring tape. >.< I'll go buy one tomorrow.
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