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Allie Trick Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Location: Gameworks at IOA! |
0. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:45 pm Post subject: how to teach DDR |
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Well a friend of mine asked me the other day to teach him DDR. I thought it would be awesome so I brought him to my house to play DDRMAX. I knew he had played before and knew the concept so I asked how good he thought he was. He said he sucked but I had NO IDEA . We started out with Peace Out on light mode. He was flailing all about, missing the arrows, using the wrong feet etc. After 3 hours he got a B on peace out. (only once, we played it again and he got a D) I dont know what to say to him because I remember when I first started... i wasnt that bad. Are some people incapable of being good at DDR? How can I "teach" him when we play a 1 step song and he cant do it? Should i tell him he is a failure who will never amount to anything and get it over with??? _________________
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meeper Basic Member
Joined: 19 Aug 2002
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1. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Definently not. Anyone can get good at DDR, some just learn faster than others.
My mother started out the same way. She couldn't seem to grasp the concept, and it took her about a week to even get to two-foot songs.
Now she's doing fives, so anybody can do it. Just takes patience and persistance.
Encourage your friend, and don't mark him off as "unskilled" or anything of the sort. Remember, in the end, it's just a game, and it's there to have fun with. It's no fun constantly being reminded how much you suck, especially when you're new. |
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hime Basic Member
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Denton, TX |
2. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, me and two friends went to play last night. The male friend seemed to pick up on it and "get it" - he wasn't very good, but he got better all along. The female friend took much longer, and on 1 foot songs (on BEGINNER on Extreme) she was still muffing stuff.
Hopefully she'll get better, cuz we're gonna be playing more. :) |
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k-strife Trick Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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3. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: how to teach DDR |
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Allie wrote: | Should i tell him he is a failure who will never amount to anything and get it over with??? |
Yep .
That is... if you don't want a friend anymore |
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.fill Trick Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Location: The Flower of Carnage |
4. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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As always, the best way to get better is just to practice a lot. It took me at least a week or so before it didn't look like I was a drunken elephant flailing around. Just keep on playing songs and your friend will get better eventually. _________________
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LoopyChew Trick Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: Switzerland |
5. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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You must have patience, like the rocks in the stream. The art of Tae Kwon Leep--dammit, wrong sketch.
Really, though, there are two things that will help your friend out in the early stages:
1. Patience.
2. Practice. (For enough practice, see 1.)
Eventually, people will learn to overcome their balancing problems, etc. Have you tried running him through the lesson mode? Show that to him, let him try out all the lessons, and eventually he'll get through. Meanwhile, on the side, you may want to give some small tips here and there--not enough to dominate the lesson on screen, but enough to accompany and enhance it. (Use common sense here.)
One of the many things I've pointed out to people is how they use their feet. DDR stepping is a lot like walking--you should rely on both feet equally, and they shouldn't be right next to each other very long if you want to ensure smooth motion. That's one of the core lessons in DDR, and it does get taught in lesson mode (on Konamix, if not MAX).
If things seem to get a bit rough, clap out the beat for him (slap your thigh). It serves the same purpose as the metronome in training mode. Also a big help.
Don't write your friend off just yet. And remember: different people have different styles. One of the people here who's an excellent tech stepper has a stomparound method I never would have thought would work for DDR, but he consistenly gets higher scores than I do on most songs. So patience, grasshoppah! _________________
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Cintifizzo Trick Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Location: California |
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Delphy Trick Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
7. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oh my... You would have given up on me long ago if you were teaching me. I never did fully complete lesson 3 until about a month passed. Of course, I was playing easy songs in the interim, but with mixed degrees of success.
All of us had to start somewhere. I can see people being overwhelmed at the start by the arrows to begin with even if only what more experienced players would see as a slow or steady stream of arrows. Even if the result is one step forward and two steps back, with time and patience they'll gradually progress and it'll actually be pretty fun seeing them improve.
DDR is not the only skill in the world. I'd not be so quick to write them off as hopeless; you may need their help someday - or who knows? Eventually they may pass you in skill level. The lack of coordination for DDR should not translate into the loss of a friendship _________________
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8. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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People learn faster than others, when I first started I wasn't so great myself. The more you DO something the better you get at it. Same with DDR. |
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9. Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Clapping to a certain beat helps a little. Keeps you in rhythm.
rYc3 _________________
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onetwolittleb Trick Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Location: somerville, ma |
12. Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:14 am Post subject: |
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The first lesson mode is really useful. Give them pointers one at a time, so they can assimulate them slowly. Watch what they are doing and try to figure out what the best thing to say first is. And don't just watch them fail a song and then do something reallyhad because that jsut makes them want to give up. Doing the easy song for them explaining about weight shifts, leaving your feet ont he arrows and other things you are doing is sometimes helpful. You can also try traning mode, but I would avoid that.
But yah, what everyone else said. People learn at different speeds. It look me a week or so to just pass boom boom ONCE. I was learning by myself, mind you. I'm a competent heavy DDR player now.
I've taught a lot of people, and 3 hours to get the hang of things isn't THAT bad. He's not a fast learner, but that's ok. |
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Mattio351 Basic Member
Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Location: Manhattan, IL |
13. Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:24 pm Post subject: A good way to teach |
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I've trained 4 people, and the best way is to make them play lesson mode. i know its boring, but it really works.
I used to use the same foot for every button except for the left foot (left button)
I tried lesson mode and my style completely changed. It works wonders!
I highly recommend it! |
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Technick Trick Member
Joined: 18 Aug 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY |
14. Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well I basically have thought my friend to play. I told him to get a pad and a copy of DDR MAX. I told him to play for about 2 to 3 hours a day. Go through all the songs on light until you can get a A or B on all of them, then once you pass those move on to trick.
I go over there about every weekend to teach him how to pivot since he is on maniac songs now. That took me the longest to grasp, is how to pivot so I am trying to help him. He can know get consistent A's and B's on most of the maniac songs.
Just tell him/her to keep trying he/she will get it sooner or later, it just takes time/patience/practice. _________________
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MR. Ziggy Trick Member
Joined: 10 May 2003 Location: You tell me |
15. Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oh man, I'm a REALY slow learner.
It took melike 2 1/2 Months to be Lvl 5.
It's been a Year and 3 Months, and I can't barely pass 9-Footters on the Pad, and No 10-footers! (Mabey that's because the only 10 footer I can play is MAX 300, and that's at my House, with crappy pad)
Even little kids can learn.
My 5 year old Nephew got the game because of me.
She keeps practicing, and is getting better every day.
I think she can do 4-footers now, which is hard for a 5 year old!
Everybody can get good at DDR.
DDR isn't a normal game, it's a game that you keep want to play.
You can never BEAT it, and it last forever.
You keep wanted to get better at somthing. _________________
Current FAV:MAX. (Period)
Current goal for songs:Don't know actually...
Current goal in life:Staying with my G/F
Greatest song accplishment(Bad spelling):AAAing Max. (period), on Stepmania though, and I got a pic. |
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-Mystik- Trick Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2002 Location: NorCal |
16. Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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well, this is my idea of a good teacher...
1st get a bamboo stick, now it goes like this.
"Ok you touched bar!" *Whap* "you stepped back to the middle of the pad after each step" *WHAP* "you failed *Whap Whap Whap Whap* _________________
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Allie Trick Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Location: Gameworks at IOA! |
17. Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Technick wrote: | I told him to get a pad and a copy of DDR MAX |
i dont think he has:
$199 for ps2
$40 for ddrmax
$20 for a beat pad
just lying around the house _________________
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Miz Trick Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Location: King, NC |
18. Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Alright, this topic is an easy one. There are two things that I have seen with this game and people learning it.
1. It takes time. The more you play it the better you WILL get. You can not get worse at the game, so you are literally always a winner!!!
2. Females learn slower. I am not being sexest or anything, but this is the truth behind what I have seen. We have a million males and like, four females that play the game worth anything. I would like for more females to get better at the game, so ... yeah. When a woman steps up and wants to learn, I go to her first, since they need more help. Again, I am not downgrading the women of DDR, only stating that I have seen that it takes them a LITTLE longer to fall into the correct groove.
Myself, I fall into something odd. After a week I was on five footers, and AAing three footers. By the end of the first month, AAing seven footers. his is when the game takes a gentle learning curve and slaps you in the face with it. I has taken me an extra month to get down the nine footers, and I am still working on them !!! _________________
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Andy the happy mod-man Trick Member
Joined: 13 Aug 2002 Location: Woonsocket, Rhode Island |
19. Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Here's how I got started back in August '02.
1. Do lesson mode.
2. Finish lesson mode.
3. Repeat 1 and 2 until you feel confident on the pad.
4. Start by trying songs using the PSX controller.
5. My logic was if I could do it with the controller, I would soon be able to do it with my feet. Because more than half of playing a song is understanding the steps. _________________
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