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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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100. PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I'm new to this homemade hard pad thing, and I have a few questions.

1 Whose homemade pad is the best and how long do they last?
2 Is it cheaper to build a homepad or to buy one?
3 Which will last longer, a home pad or a store-bought one?

Thanks in advance. I've gone through three crappy $25 soft pads, and I figured it'd be a better investement of my money to buy or build a hard pad.
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101. PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also pose another question. If I want to switch the PSX controller on a homemade pad and replace it with a PS2 controller, will I be able to follow the same instructions at the website and still get the same results?
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102. PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 5:51 pm    Post subject: PS2 Controller Reply with quote

About the controller. The GameStop or Pelican controller are the ones you see @ AngelFire. The diagram is only for these two controllers that I know of. I have opened a Mad Catz PS2 controller and the solder points are elsewhere.

If my theory works, and hopefully it can be confirmed on this thread, take two wires and hunt for the ground + Up, down, right, left and start select and X if you want the extras. Turn on your DDR game and ck to see where each direction is by placing a wire by the left directional pad and try to locate a ground.


I am not sure of this method so I would appreciate if someone with knowledge of this would leave mucho feedback on how to LOCATE GROUND AND ALL THE OTHER SOLDER POINTS On various controllers or generally speaking all PS2/PSX controllers.

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103. PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZanKnight wrote:
Hey, I'm new to this homemade hard pad thing, and I have a few questions.

1 Whose homemade pad is the best and how long do they last?
2 Is it cheaper to build a homepad or to buy one?
3 Which will last longer, a home pad or a store-bought one?

Thanks in advance. I've gone through three crappy $25 soft pads, and I figured it'd be a better investement of my money to buy or build a hard pad.



1. there all great!
2. It depends on how much stuff you have. you can get crappy low quality pads for 80 bucks and make a homepad for 80 (my ddr homepad cost me 30 bucks, hehe)
3. depends on how good you built it. If you take the time and build it right, the homepad will last untill you become sick of dance dance revolution


How to find ground?

Its simple, the ground wire is always black, so, just follow the black wire onto the circuit board and just follow the trail till it leads to one big copper point!
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104. PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 6:56 pm    Post subject: ddr vids Reply with quote

go ahead and leech chapter 3 & 5. they should be fine.
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105. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:52 am    Post subject: yo Reply with quote

a while back i said that i would be creating a site with all the pad designs explained in basic terms, well its not done yet, but your can check up on the status through the link in my sig.
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106. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it was ever mentioned before or not, but I got this idea while working on my MAME cabinent.

What about using a I-PAC http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html for inputs into a PC for DWI or Stepmania or whatever.

I'm going to give it a try when I get my cabinent done (this summer sometime). But I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. and you can even hook up 2 pads to one I-PAC.

If someone did this already, lemme know how it works.
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107. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me2: I'm "leeching" them right now, my mirror will have working 3 + 5 in a few minutes.
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108. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rickorion wrote:
I don't know if it was ever mentioned before or not, but I got this idea while working on my MAME cabinent.

What about using a I-PAC http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html for inputs into a PC for DWI or Stepmania or whatever.

I'm going to give it a try when I get my cabinent done (this summer sometime). But I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. and you can even hook up 2 pads to one I-PAC.

If someone did this already, lemme know how it works.


um, i guess itll work fine, but i think it would be better to solder a ps controller to the pad, then get a psx>pc converter that way you could use the pd on both
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109. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:59 pm    Post subject: Video (yeah another time sry) Reply with quote

Vid 3 and 5 (yep...) still not working for me... if I cat get them... I can host them... 50Kbs MAX.........


but.. 1 2 and 4 look great E10.gif

and if you want something les expensive go on the website listed in my sig its a ******* good idea E10.gif using the "scrap" metal sheet for doing a corner brace E10.gif
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110. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZanKnight wrote:
Hey, I'm new to this homemade hard pad thing, and I have a few questions.

1 Whose homemade pad is the best and how long do they last?
2 Is it cheaper to build a homepad or to buy one?
3 Which will last longer, a home pad or a store-bought one?

Thanks in advance. I've gone through three crappy $25 soft pads, and I figured it'd be a better investement of my money to buy or build a hard pad.


1. ddrohompads is the easiest, although riptide/_ter's are probably the best. I have a ddrhomepad one and it works great.
2. I suppose you mean buy a metal pad. A mymybox is cheaper, but a cobaltflux is more expensive. Although the big plus is if something goes wrong on a homemade, you can fix it yourself. If you eman softpad, you will probably go through so manu you will have spent more on softies in the long run.
3. Well a cobalt flux will prbably last for almost ever (they did drive a truck over it and it still worked). And homemades you can always fix up. I have had mine for about 3 ,months, i play 9 footers, and it still works amazingly. And i'm 240ish pounds so it has taken a beating. Also i have played drop out a lot, A LOT, so there is nothing it can't withstand (within the limits of ddr playing).
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111. PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:36 pm    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

Ok i just bought some materials... some questions tho... can i get 7/16 inch thick Weatherstrip instead of 1/2 inch... Do i need tin snips to cut the sheet metal... how long is the Pan philips Screws in length... and i got dry wall screws that are 6x1-1/4... are those good.... and how big plexiglass do i need... and can i use .236 plexi instead of .22 BTW this is all for riptides pad
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112. PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 2:20 pm    Post subject: Finaly Reply with quote

I got the 5 video working great E10.gif


Ill try to host them (my friend will E10.gif)

ill give you the URL when it will work
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113. PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2003 11:55 pm    Post subject: d-wires <----> ground ? Reply with quote

I screwed up when doing the wiring to the arrow panels and switched the ground (should be on the bottom) with the down/up/right/left wires (should be on the top). Will this change anything?

btw - using ddrhomepad's tutorial
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114. PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: d-wires <----> ground ? Reply with quote

Bojangles wrote:
I screwed up when doing the wiring to the arrow panels and switched the ground (should be on the bottom) with the down/up/right/left wires (should be on the top). Will this change anything?

btw - using ddrhomepad's tutorial


Nope, will not matter, as long as positive (arrow) and negative (ground) get a good connection, it doesnt matter which is on top or botom
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115. PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 9:04 am    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

I started yesterday and did great! All i need to do is get the pushbuttons in... put the arrows on the plexiglass, and wire.... I dont understand the wiring at alll.... can someone explain it really simply
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116. PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any soldering diagrams for a Mad Catz Dual Force 1 for ps1? I'd like to have em.

NOTE: If someone already asked this, please direct me to it.
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117. PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Collector wrote:
Does anyone have any soldering diagrams for a Mad Catz Dual Force 1 for ps1? I'd like to have em.

NOTE: If someone already asked this, please direct me to it.


is that the dual shock controller?

go to part 3, look from thread 100 -110

there is a diagram of a dual shock in there, and im pretty sure its a mad catz
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118. PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 4:19 pm    Post subject: Trying To Make A Home Pad Wiring - Making It Simple Reply with quote

Buy Helping Hands from Radio Shack for 10.00. Buy a very small reel of solder and of course have the CAT 5 phone cable w/ 8 wires fr. Home DEPOT.


If I can do this so can you.

Buy a $5.00 Pen like soldering Iron from Radio Shack and that is all you need.

1. Open up your controller and save all your screws. Take out the board and clip it to your helping hands.
2. Take a 1/16 drill bit and drill not on the solder point but close to it. The idea here is that you want to stick wires from the bottom of the board through the small whole that is close enough to the solder point. Do this for all intended solder points Up, DWN, LFT, and RT.

3. Now for the NOs. Do not pull any wires that you want to remove. Do not drill directly on to the solder points and do not force the control when putting back together.

4. How to solder. This is tricky. Hold your solder pen onto the wire for a few seconds and add a bit of solder to the wire. Now place your solder gun to the solder point for a few seconds and add a tiny amount of solder. Now hold the wire steady onto the solder point with a bit of solder in one hand and melt the wire to the solder point. Be very careful! Do not get any solder anywhere else.

If you do buy a solder sucker...I am not sure of the name, but it is from Radio Shack.




This should hopefully help E7.gif
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119. PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 5:12 pm    Post subject: hey Reply with quote

I finished my pad!!... one problem.... the right and down arrows are a little bad... right double skips sometimes and i need to stomp on down.... what are some things u should do?
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