Forums FAQForums FAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Login to check your private messagesLogin to check your private messages   LoginLogin 

Beatmania/IIDX/III thread (baby you're solid GOLD)
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 15, 16, 17 ... 101, 102, 103  Next  
This topic is locked you cannot edit posts or make replies    DDR Freak Forum Index -> Other Bemani and Music Games
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SamplingMasters PongAtari
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 31 Oct 2002
Location: Kakogawa, Japan
300. PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry double post
_________________

1994 180sx Type X
Boroboro jikozo!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Twisted Silence
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 22 May 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL
301. PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's amazing how retarded I felt when I first started playing because I couldn't even keep a combo going for the longest time.


Word to that. I can clear some mad hard songs on 7-key, but Light-14 put me in my place.

Quote:
Have you cleared I Was The One yet? That was my first light14 AA.


Yep, it was the second song I cleared (first was Changes, both took two tries).
_________________
YOU SUPPOSED TO ACT UP RUNNING WITH A BLACK AND FUCKIN MILD
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
Student
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 08 Feb 2002
Location: Hoping for RP scandia to get IIDX
302. PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fluxx wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, I present the IIDX controler mod.......in japanese.

http://www.nissie.com/2dxcon/index.html

thanks.
_________________
If every world problem got solved today, there'd be another one next week -Kerry King
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website MSN Messenger
CStarFlare
Maniac Member
Maniac Member


Joined: 24 Jan 2002
303. PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay. It's got pictures. biggrin.gif

I'll try some of that stuff. I'm currently at 4 keys sticking every time I hit them, and 1 that sticks every once in a while. blink.gif
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
SamplingMasters PongAtari
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 31 Oct 2002
Location: Kakogawa, Japan
304. PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What 7s do you guys think should be rated lower? I vote Starmine (it was fine as a 6), Aoi Shoudo, Monkey Dance, and Star Dream.
_________________

1994 180sx Type X
Boroboro jikozo!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Student
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 08 Feb 2002
Location: Hoping for RP scandia to get IIDX
305. PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

playing in handcuffs sucks alot harder then I thought it would
_________________
If every world problem got solved today, there'd be another one next week -Kerry King
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Visit posters website MSN Messenger
Bryan Voorhees
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 11 Apr 2002
Location: Oklahoma City - CJ's
306. PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I full combo'ed love is dreaminess 7 key and AA'ed safari light 7, the fast one on 6th Style E7.gif
_________________
Anyway this cake is great!
It's so delicious and moist!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
gs68
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 06 Apr 2002
Location: on a plane
307. PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've full-comboed Night of Fire [L7] once, and AA'ed Outer Limits [Beginner].
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
kimcicle
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 28 Jan 2002
Location: richardson, texas
308. PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anybody point me to some hard 7s/easy flashing 7s on 8th style?

B4U seemed like a logical choice, but that song rips me apart. I passed War Game and Last Message on my first try, though. . .
_________________
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email Visit posters website AOL Instant Messenger
Smbu |L©|
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 26 Jan 2002
Location: California
309. PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thekimcicle wrote:
Can anybody point me to some hard 7s/easy flashing 7s on 8th style?

B4U seemed like a logical choice, but that song rips me apart. I passed War Game and Last Message on my first try, though. . .


How about Summer Vacation, Giudecca, Abstract, Dual Control, Red Nikita, Heartbeat can't think of any others at the moment.
_________________
President of the SuPa |L�| Fanclub! Oh, YEAH!!!1
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
Lepracon Artist
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 26 Jan 2002
Location: Funkytown
310. PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smbu |L©| wrote:
thekimcicle wrote:
Can anybody point me to some hard 7s/easy flashing 7s on 8th style?

B4U seemed like a logical choice, but that song rips me apart. I passed War Game and Last Message on my first try, though. . .


How about Summer Vacation, Giudecca, Abstract, Dual Control, Red Nikita, Heartbeat can't think of any others at the moment.


Red Nikita isn't THAT easy. There are easier flashing 7s out there. I'd consider it an average Flashing 7. Ditto Summer Vacation.

I'd go with: Traces, Foreplay, Blame, Music to Your Head, Memories, Xenon, and Colors Eruobeat Mix. Try those.
_________________

Lame horse!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
RyogaForumJesterEdition
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 27 Jan 2003
311. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 8:12 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Colors euro is easily the easiest of all flashing 7s. Not even sure why it is a flashing 7 =/ . The easiest ones after that are b4u, xenon, and take it easy which is hard to pass, but easy to score on compared to the flashing 7s not listed.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
Lepracon Artist
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 26 Jan 2002
Location: Funkytown
312. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

RyogaMonocleEdition wrote:
Colors euro is easily the easiest of all flashing 7s. Not even sure why it is a flashing 7 =/ . The easiest ones after that are b4u, xenon, and take it easy which is hard to pass, but easy to score on compared to the flashing 7s not listed.


I dissagree. I think Xenon is the easiest of the Flashing 7s, followed by Dual Control and then Abstract. I've got friends who say that the ending screws them up.

But 8th Style Flashing 7s are generally easier than the other flashing 7s, IMO (Ecxept for Sakura, of course)
_________________

Lame horse!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
Smbu |L©|
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 26 Jan 2002
Location: California
313. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think colors euro is the easiest of all flashing 7's too. I passed it on my first try, while xenon took me two or three tries to pass.

And you mentioned memories as an easy flashing 7? I find that song to be sort of tough(even though i get an A on it), certainly it blows away red nikita in terms of difficulty.

Summer Vacation isn't too hard once you get used to it. Maybe its just because i played it a lot on 6th.

Symbolic seems pretty easy too up until the end part, but if you can get past that its not hard to get a good grade on it.
_________________
President of the SuPa |L�| Fanclub! Oh, YEAH!!!1
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AOL Instant Messenger
omega burrito
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 20 Feb 2003
314. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is LAB a flashing 7? cause i found it very easy (and too much fun for it's own good)
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Lepracon Artist
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 26 Jan 2002
Location: Funkytown
315. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smbu |L©| wrote:

And you mentioned memories as an easy flashing 7? I find that song to be sort of tough(even though i get an A on it), certainly it blows away red nikita in terms of difficulty.


peoples.gif

Memories is just a bunch of double-presses. It's quite easy to score on. I passed it with an A my first try. Red Nikita on the other hand, I can barely get a C on. *shrugs*

omega burrito: did you play Lab on a simulator or arcade? If it's the former, you're not playing it in it's entirety. The scratches are what make the song hard.
_________________

Lame horse!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
nogic
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 23 Jan 2002
Location: Cheap Hotel
316. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abstract wins easiest flashing 7, hands down. It's even easier than Xenon. Summer Vacation isn't so bad either.

Lab is definitely flashing 7. Too fast.

Traces is bullshit. Should be 8 or 9. Speaking of which, they need to redo the rating system for IIDX.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AOL Instant Messenger
MagnetiX
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Location: Las Vegas
317. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
BEMANI 専 コン improvement plan Last Update 2002/01/27




Renewal past record 2002/01/27
Report#02: " Why, the keyboard being fixed? " It released.
From the reason where the keyboard is fixed, you tried stating those measures theoretically.
If you read this, the entire picture of this improvement plan clearly the ・ ・ ・! (^ ^;

Report#03: " The FAQ " was released.
When there is a thing which is thought in doubt, please see this way in reference.

Report#01: On " improvement plan, it adds the information of the mail order which sells the rubber board the routing " inside . Other things and minute correction.





Report #00: " Summary of improvement plan " As for this report, adjusting the key stroke of the beatmaniacIidx private controller
Even, as a little you bring close to the interval of the arcade, it is the plan that you improve the button being fixed .

After the improvement plan applying and between half year, there is no メンテ with continuing to use, it increases, but since doing improvement plan, either not yet even one time has not been fixed .

In addition, just a little you just pushed the edge it reacts to about also the sensitivity of the button to rise, it increases .
When you work according to of below-mentioned statement, you can obtain this kind of improvement.

Concerning problem and the damage et cetera which it occurs with respect to the result or the job which is tried this improvement step,
As for the manager or the authorized personnel of this sight it is not possible altogether to owe responsibility.
Beforehand please do job in regard to acknowledgement, in the range of responsibility of the individual.

In addition, necessary ones do not catch only the driver and the rubber board and the paper pattern the money distantly almost.
The rubber board does not care even with the rubber board of marketing which sells at foam/home center.
Mail order and the details which sell the rubber board which is suited for this improvement plan for the reference are stated on the middle of job procedure .

As for time of that appearance it depends on this job certainly, , but you think the sufficient effect which it corresponds to that it is obtained.
To in addition to, there are various methods such as disassembly cleaning of the controller in button being fixed measure, but
Cause of the button being fixed is cut off completely , if so it does not do, transitory having been repaired, again, the button reaches the point where it is fixed.
And, transitory soothing repeatedly while being, the button being fixed gradually keeps deteriorating.
Actually, I so doing, because it is the one person who suffers .... there, it is the case that the latest improvement step is born.

At time of one time which passes, being to be able to obtain for comfortable home the IIDX environment the after the that, because it does, you think they are cheap ones.
Whether or not you try this improvement step, it is entrusted to the person who is read the report, but at least I the オススメ do with self-confidence .

In regard to this improvement step, because it supports as much as possible, when there is an unclear point, communication with such as bulletin board and mail .
In addition, improvement step we wait also the result report and the like which does.

We support the IIDX life whose everyone is better.

As for the photograph of < or less when it clicks, it can look at the big photograph, >




Report #01: " Improvement plan and the routing " It is the &#12467;&#12490;&#12511; make beatmaniacIidx private controller.
Price comparatively you degree of complete being to be high, but.....
Being proportionate to the frequency of use, it holds the problem that the button keeps becoming easy to be fixed.

It releases concerning the expedient in order to solve this problem.
Since the result of the durable test in the truth play, doing this improvement job,
Also one time being enough the button has not been fixed .

First, please remove the part of 7 keyboards than the substance .
Because it corresponds to the left scratch * right scratch both, it has become the way which comes off.

Because 6 places (red circle) there is a screw on reverse side, removing entirely, it disassembles.
Because it divides into two, from the basis of the photograph right side 2 screws (blue circle) removing
Please disassemble completely.

It is the photograph of the basis which you remove.
To be white it understands in the part of the button that silk printing is done.

The pedestal where the button sinks deeply in this part and prevents thing is made .
The fact that because of this, the button is fixed is prevented.

The rubber board of thickness 2.5mm weakness is used to the pedestal.
This is cut off in size of the length and breadth approximately 5mm and the pedestal is made. (5.0mmx5.0mmx2.5mm)

The photograph the 3m corporation is the rubber sheet for make of marketing * insulation .
This fall at the electronic part store of the month electron and the like insulated rubber sheet for the printed circuit board with the name,
One (the 40.6mmx25mm) it is sold for 20 Yen. It differs more or less (depending upon the store.)
It does not care even with the normal rubber board which of course, is sold at foam/home center.
In that case, you can obtain the degree of completion of according to of this supposition, with it does not limit.
It does not care even with the substitute article, but please use those which have flexibility.
When they are extremely hard ones, when striking with strong impact big sound becomes and,
With soft ones, it collapses directly and is not usable .
In addition, when reverse side of the rubber board is something of adhesion type, installation is simple.

The pedestal of the rubber board is installed in the place of the photograph to the left .
Exactly, being to paste on the coming out &#12387; &#12401; &#12426; of silk printing, it does, but
This time, the 1mm please make the opening from the edge inside . (Width of red line)
It mentions later the reason.

This please be attached to each button and go to the total 28 places of 4 places.
The photograph to the left is in a state where the rubber board is installed.

It is the photograph of reverse side of a state where the button is installed.
Square it is and (the red circle where the coming out &#12387; &#12401;&#12426; in 1mm angle has come out of the enclosure)
You think you understand.
The rubber board from silk printing as for shifting inside the 1mm,
Is because foothold of the rubber board that tries does not correspond to this part.


Foothold of the rubber board is made in the same way in all the 7 keyboards .
In order not to peel off and/or not to slip please stick securely.

Job is administered next even on reverse side of the button.
On each button is produced with the rubber and the electric conduction rubber which are widely used in the pad the part which
Because it is riding, please avoid.

In the central part of each button, the paper pattern of size of the same rank as the photograph to the left is placed .
Being something which cuts off the box of the facial tissue roundly, it does not care .
2 paper patterns which are put the left side by the way are the sample.
Do not exceed the range of the red circle those of size are repeated.

After 3 piling up the paper pattern , the on that the original &#12293; is the part of the rubber which
Please put . Similar job is administered to 7 keyboard everything.

By the way 2 is with a little the reaction to become bad, when 4 is, the key stroke is almost gone .
Adjusting to the taste, please adjust. 3 are the &#12458;&#12473;&#12473;&#12513;.

When job above ends, please assemble as before.
When the basis it becomes the top and bottom opposite and when foothold of the rubber approaches outside too much ,
Being not to be fixed well please note.

Test play is done, please verify the condition of the reaction and that the button being fixed is not caused .
There is a button which does not react, that the button is fixed i seem
You can think that it is mistake in job.

In addition, at the time of the button depression when there is a feel which is made the &#12464;&#12491;&#12515;&#12522; where the rubber collapses ,
Because the part of the rubber of button reverse side is a possibility of having slipped from the framework,
In that case, because of sense, disassembling for the second time, please verify.

If the result with respect to job of according to of this supposition is obtained,
Like the photograph to the left, just puts in place the hand lightly all pushing to being possible raw, sensitivity improves .
Like the photograph, lightly you just hold down the edge it becomes the way which reacts.

Because this much efficiency is obtained, part preparation and job please go securely .






Report #02: " Why, the keyboard being fixed? " Here, why the keyboard is fixed whether, and it explains concerning the measure .

If the reason where the keyboard is fixed understands, also corresponding step comes out simultaneously .
The fact that it is born to the way, this improvement plan being to be.

The photograph to the left after removing the button, is the part.
The part of the red framework barely comes out and the &#12387; &#12401; &#12387; &#12390; it understands that it is.

As this part comes in contact the button rubs, the soiling, it keeps being hurt .
Actually the soiling and the scar are conspicuous even with the photograph.

To a certain, it can restore by the fact that it cleans briskly, , but
After all, it does not become the elementary solution, pain keeps increasing gradually .

This way is the photograph of the button which is removed.
It is the part which it explained at description above and being able to rub the part of the red framework is hurt.
Naturally, not only top, left and right of other things, also lower part is hurt in the same way.

Rather it understands even from the photograph that it is damaged, you think.

The soiling and the scar of this part, make the friction with the coming out &#12387; &#12401; &#12426; of the frame high ,
It has become with one of the cause of becoming state while the button is pushed in.

When you have used in this state, at the time of the button depression four angles of the button which is the region which becomes pointed,
And each of them of the top parts which draw arch is caught to the framework of the button.
This is condition of the generally known, button being fixed.
This condition is expressed to especially remarkable by sinking slantedly the occasion where the edge was pushed down.

In other words at the time of the button depression, the part where the button becomes pointed just is caught to the button framework .
If that it is, if decreasing the stroke of the button, it is excuse.
The original &#12293;, as for the &#23554; &#12467;&#12531; because stroke is deep, decreasing stroke somewhat, there is no influence .

As for arcade controller key stroke approximately 2.5mm,
Because the key stroke after the improvement planning is approximately 2.0mm,
On the other hand, you think you can say even stroke it gets near to the arcade width, .
The around this is the part where the taste divides, but the sensitivity improvement + button being fixed
If you think it is improved, as a compensation you think they are cheap ones.

Width of the line where the photograph to the left is red (the 2.0mm) is stroke width after the improving.
In state before the improving, furthermore about the 1.0mm, it sinks deeply .

As for decreasing the key stroke how it should have done, the &#65381; &#65381; &#65381;.
1. The foot of the button is made long.
2. Foothold is made in the basis.
It becomes either one, but as for being able to actualize easily, you think after all it is latter.

The photograph to the left after really making foothold with rubber board, is the photograph.
Originally the electric conduction rubber enters underneath the button, but here you have not put.

It was expanded to width of the line where the foot be no other choice but to width of the blue line , falsely, is red .
With this foothold, it is possible also to prevent the fact that it sinks slantedly the occasion where the edge was pushed down.

The electric conduction rubber where this way has gone underneath the button (only the black part is the electric conduction rubber) accurately.
It turns on electricity by contacting with the circle where the part of the circle where this photograph is red the photograph under is red ,
It is judged it was done to push down.

At the time of the button depression, the part of blue circle is dented, the electric conduction rubber which is on reverse side contacts with the basis.
But, this way make foothold and the paragraph fold the stroke of the button little ,
Housebreaking of this part becomes sweet, the electric conduction rubber stops contacting the basis .

This way is the photograph of basis side.
By the fact that the part of the circle where the center is red contacts with the electric conduction rubber, it is judged as the button depression .
As for this system, you think popular it is used from former times you can mention expedient rather.

When you see carefully, correspondence with the keyboard and the pad being written by the direction under, it reaches.
This keyboard " <- " (the LEFT) with seems that is corresponding.

Well, the amount which decreases the key stroke of the button ,
This stroke the paragraph it is not it became necessary largely .

Then, like the photograph to the left by the fact that the paper pattern is piled up,
This year when stroke is enlarged falsely it increased.

With respect to theory, width of the this red line means to match the height of the rubber board.
Because of that, if the quantity of the paper pattern is increased, because the electric conduction rubber and the basis contacts by light power ,
It rises and increases sensitivity.

On the basis of the thought above, the respective process exists .
With job of the necessary minimum, in order to be able to obtain the effect of the maximum , you think.

The rubber board and the paper pattern, whichever applying, this improvement plan does not have to consist ,
You think and, you could understand the fact that it becomes delicate job of the mm unit.

Thank you for reading this kind of composition to here.
While asking the fact that it becomes something whose sound Gaea life of everyone is better .





Report #03: " FAQ " After the job of the Q unless improvement plan , center of the button is pushed, it stopped reacting .
Thickness of the A in order rubber board thickness of the paper pattern compared to to be too large , it is thought the reaction has become bad. Please adjust the thickness of the rubber board and the thickness of the paper pattern.

After the job of the Q improvement plan, there is no feel which pushed in the button .
Thickness of the A because rubber board is too large , it is thought stroke has been gone. Please adjust the thickness of the rubber board. Originally, it is the expectation where you can obtain the stroke about of the 2.0mm.

After the job of the Q improvement plan, the feel which has the elasticity which the occasion where you pushed in is made the &#12419; &#12426; in the &#12368; does .
The paper pattern has deviated from inside the A electric conduction rubber, it is thought the electric conduction rubber is collapsed slantedly. In this state, sensitivity to be strange, because there is a possibility of breaking the electric conduction rubber, disassembling, please verify .

Is the rubber board which is used for the Q improvement plan probably to be good with any ones ?
Being something which becomes foothold at the time, of the A button depression because it does, are those which have elasticity are necessary. Furthermore, in order not to slip, because it is necessary to lock securely in the basis, the reverse side recommends those of adhesion type.

It can purchase the rubber board which is used for the Q improvement plan somewhere, ?
It is sold even at A foam/home center and the like, but fall month electron being similar, one (the 40.6mmx25mm) it recommends those which are sold for 20 Yen with the name, insulated rubber sheet for the printed circuit board.

The Q job contents, the use part it probably is not to be able to make simpler ?
Looking at the A Report#02, you think you understand it can receive, but necessary lowest infinitely it has become the part and job contents even with this. When you think from the contents which are improved, you think it is not many job quantitatively, .


This improvement job we wait for the result report and the like which does.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Copyright (C) 2001-2002 H.Nissie All rights reserved.


Whole Page Translated.
_________________
||
I am the real.... DJ Darl..and Did I mention im a Avatar whore?
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AOL Instant Messenger
Rancidfish
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 29 Jun 2002
Location: Santa Rosa, CA/Santa Cruz, CA
318. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest flashing 7: B4U. "OMG! I can't hit notes and scratch at the same time!" For anyone who plays one-handed a lot, this one will be easy.

Next is probably xenon. The 1/16th runs are pretty awkward, but really not too bad. 76'ed this one a couple of times now, though no pass yet.
Colors Eurobeat is pretty easy, too. I can't remember where I screw it up, because I've never passed it, but I only lose a couple of % here on the Eurobeat course.

Abstract I've actually found to be pretty damn hard. It's not very fast, but it's consistently very, very weird. Especially that stupid backbeat on the offbeat 1/16ths. Ugh.
Summer Vacation is still just a jumble of notes to me.

Without the scratching, V is pretty damn easy. (76'ed it but not passed, like xenon.) With the scratching, it completely destroys me. I have no idea why the scratching makes it that much harder, because it's pretty much all in rather easy spots.

Murmur twins didn't seem too hard... but I might be remembering incorrectly...
_________________
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
MagnetiX
Trick Member
Trick Member


Joined: 07 Mar 2003
Location: Las Vegas
319. PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to do a Mod on my IIDX controller,where can I get some decent Pushbuttons for them?

I tried Happcontrols.com and they seem like its a good place to buy it from,but im just wondering if I can get it anywhere else.
_________________
||
I am the real.... DJ Darl..and Did I mention im a Avatar whore?
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AOL Instant Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
This topic is locked you cannot edit posts or make replies    DDR Freak Forum Index -> Other Bemani and Music Games All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 15, 16, 17 ... 101, 102, 103  Next
Page 16 of 103

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group