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120. PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2002 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You talk about how not to hurt the machine, but when I downloaded one of the boom boom dollar videos (Boom Boom Dollar is my favorite song from first mix), the guy tried a backflip sorta thing off of the machine.
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121. PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately ive been praticing 2 new moves, i havent seen anyone else use them. First is a handplant (not a handslap) this involves preforming a one handed handstand the other hand is holding my feet. Then just return. The other is the same motion but i continue all the way over (like a one handed cartwheel) I have to be on a song with a good pause, usually 1 to 1 1/2 measure pause. The best way to do it is on the very edge of the pad.
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Lately ive been praticing 2 new moves, i havent seen anyone else use them. First is a handplant (not a handslap) this involves preforming a one handed handstand the other hand is holding my feet. Then just return. The other is the same motion but i continue all the way over (like a one handed cartwheel) I have to be on a song with a good pause, usually 1 to 1 1/2 measure pause. The best way to do it is on the very edge of the pad.

almost sounds like a capoeria move... the valdez.
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123. PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think my way may not be as fun but is probably an easier way to make freestyles i take some ones routine from a vid now, i dont take their routine but i switch what song i do it on and iuse only some of theier moves mixed with my own ideas like this one i made last night i went to the arcade, and a group of my friends were there i wated to do a freestyle i just thought of of the top of my head so i looked back to "supply's after the game of love c walk" and i picked let the beat hit'em
on 4th mixplus when the song started i started c walking but then i stopped after a few seconds and started doing the harlem shake and my friends said it was a good routine so since only 3 peole saw it i now know what i am using next freestyle tourney E4.gif
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124. PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2002 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damion wrote:
You talk about how not to hurt the machine, but when I downloaded one of the boom boom dollar videos (Boom Boom Dollar is my favorite song from first mix), the guy tried a backflip sorta thing off of the machine.


Damion, you gotta understand, that video you downloaded of the guy doing BB$ with matrix walk is maad ancient. Back during that tourny, the matrix walk was still acceptable and was not played out. That's why you see it on that video, thats why the guy (i think his tag was ItzBrian, and he was weaing a white getup) was doing it - because it was still acceptable a few years back. Now by today's standards, the matrix walk is an absolute no-no nono.gif . Testimonials have proven the matrix walk to mess up the machine and the hardware, causing some malfunctions. disgust.gif Now never try the matrix walk, don't even bother. devil.gif

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...i picked let the beat hit'em
on 4th mixplus when the song started i started c walking but then i stopped after a few seconds and started doing the harlem shake and my friends said it was a good routine so since only 3 people saw it i now know what i am using next freestyle tourney


LTBHE c-walk (sorta) routine has been done by SwtPnoy85, but his routine isn't all just c-walk, it's varried with his own style and funny moves. I suggest using the c-walk as a style you can blend in with something rather than just core c-walk, since it's starting to be played out. Also, just those two moves ain't gonna cut it. nerd.gif IMHO, i've seen it been done on LTBHE before, it looks like a piece of junk put together since thats all the guy did at the machine i was playing. Add urban flava, but please, no c-walk. goog.gif
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125. PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L¡ustyle wrote:

unique form of dancing that often involves liquid, poppin', lockin', strobin', and occasionally some variations of break dance moves.

liquid - making your body appear almost wave like... arm waves, body waves, etc.

poppin/lockin - terms often interchangeable, but gives a heavy illusion of almost being unrealistic. Depending on the persons style, some may incorporate some glides to make it look like they're floating across the floor. It's really quite difficulty to explain, but basically you move 2+ body parts simultaneously and lock one of them while the other moves, then that locks, and your other body parts move, and then that locks - rinse and repeat.

strobin' - gives the illusion that you're under a strobe light. you move your body/arms with 1/3 or 1/2 of a second pause.

taq - however they do have an disadvantage of not being able to move their torso/chest/stomach effectively as a skinny person.


Actually popping and locking are two totally different styles.. Even though they are funk styles there are major differences between the two. Locking consists of rolling of the wrists and more active movement, it's hard to explain..heh.. Anyways.. I don't know much about locking because I don't lock...

But, as for popping... If you wanna be technical about it.. Popping is basically continuos flexing of the muscles to the beat while executing precise and funky angles. So to pop, you would tense your muscles quickly and relax to get that sort of 'POP' effect. You can pop all parts of your body.. Don't be confined to just your arms. If you want to learn to pop and be good at it, you should know how to pop your whole body: arms, legs, chest, neck.... those are the main parts.. Anyways...

As popping for a general term of all funk styles.. It would take too long to describe each style as there are many, so I'll just give the basics on one..

Waving: LiuStyle already gave a little info on this, but I'm just expanding.. To get an illusion of a wave travelling through your body, you need to learn how to isolate each individual part of the wave.. The better isolated it is, the more fluid it will look. For example, the basic arm-to-arm wave consists of 11 points (10 if you don't count the neck)... It starts on the fingers, then goes to the knuckles, then to the elbow, then shoulder, then neck, then other shoulder, and so forth, until you get to the end of your other arm.. That's just the basics, there's alot of stuff you can do with it though...

Well, I don't wanna post too much, so I'll stop there.. If anybody wants anymore info, feel free to e-mail me and I'll try to get back to you.. Or if you want an instructional clip, i'll try try to make one (lol, don't expect studio quality though)..Alright...Later..

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126. PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what I am trying to do now (the basic arm to arm wave).
For some reasons, I can't make it "flow" though...

Maybe its just the lack of practice.. But seeing an example would be helpful.

EDIT: Yup, something definitely doesn't look right around the elbow area... And I haven't got a clue how I should move my neck as well.
And I just realised how little control I have on my left arm (I am right handed). This is going to take a lot of practice.
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127. PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i know the feeling not being able to get into the "GrOoVe" lol laugh.gif
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128. PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ToRRoN wrote:
Damion wrote:
You talk about how not to hurt the machine, but when I downloaded one of the boom boom dollar videos (Boom Boom Dollar is my favorite song from first mix), the guy tried a backflip sorta thing off of the machine.


Damion, you gotta understand, that video you downloaded of the guy doing BB$ with matrix walk is maad ancient. Back during that tourny, the matrix walk was still acceptable and was not played out. That's why you see it on that video, thats why the guy (i think his tag was ItzBrian, and he was weaing a white getup) was doing it - because it was still acceptable a few years back. Now by today's standards, the matrix walk is an absolute no-no nono.gif . Testimonials have proven the matrix walk to mess up the machine and the hardware, causing some malfunctions. disgust.gif Now never try the matrix walk, don't even bother. devil.gif


Actually, hes talking about the Bran video. Bran didn't try a Matrix walk... Actually, I don't know WHAT he was trying to do. I think he was just trying to do a 180 jump off the side platform. He messed up, though. Still, jumping off machines is a BIG no-no.
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129. PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still, jumping off machines is a BIG no-no.


A bit late for this, but how does everyone react to Hyperbroken's 540 today? (no i am not hyperbroken >8|) Even though it's not jumping off the machine.
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Still, jumping off machines is a BIG no-no.


A bit late for this, but how does everyone react to Hyperbroken's 540 today? (no i am not hyperbroken >8|) Even though it's not jumping off the machine.


Actually, I think that 540 was wicked badass. I remeber the first time I saw that video!

Anyways, I think the pad can withstand someone jumping on it. The pad is a lot tougher then the rest of the machine. The pad IS built to have 300lb people do left.gif right.gif-esque steps. However, people kicking/jumping/walking across any other part of the machine will probably damage it.
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I never thought I'd say this, but I seem to be running out of ideas for freestyle routines to come up with. I had a whole bunch of possibilities with many songs from 4th+, but since that mix is no longer being used in tournaments, that reduced the number of ideas I had. There are only 2 routines I have left, but one of them is on 6th mix, and I'll have to wait until it comes back into DDR Extreme, and the other requires an edit. Since I'm too cheap to get the imports, I can't use my idea for an edit to Trip Machine (Luv Mix). I wish I could go back to who I was 1 year ago. Back then, I used to be full of ideas for freestyle routines. With DDRMAX2 being used in tournaments today, and with almost all the songs in the mix being used, it's hard to come up with an idea. Some of the songs that haven't been used for freestyle yet I don't want to do either by sound or by steps. I wish I could come up with as many ideas for freestyle as I could in the past.
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300S.P.S wrote:
i think my way may not be as fun but is probably an easier way to make freestyles i take some ones routine from a vid now, i dont take their routine but i switch what song i do it on and iuse only some of theier moves mixed with my own ideas like this one i made last night i went to the arcade, and a group of my friends were there i wated to do a freestyle i just thought of of the top of my head so i looked back to "supply's after the game of love c walk" and i picked let the beat hit'em
on 4th mixplus when the song started i started c walking but then i stopped after a few seconds and started doing the harlem shake and my friends said it was a good routine so since only 3 peole saw it i now know what i am using next freestyle tourney E4.gif


Supply did that to let the beat hit em' already, except the harlem shake part.
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300S.P.S wrote:
i think my way may not be as fun but is probably an easier way to make freestyles i take some ones routine from a vid now, i dont take their routine but i switch what song i do it on and iuse only some of theier moves mixed with my own ideas like this one i made last night i went to the arcade, and a group of my friends were there i wated to do a freestyle i just thought of of the top of my head so i looked back to "supply's after the game of love c walk" and i picked let the beat hit'em
on 4th mixplus when the song started i started c walking but then i stopped after a few seconds and started doing the harlem shake and my friends said it was a good routine so since only 3 peole saw it i now know what i am using next freestyle tourney E4.gif


Supply did that to let the beat hit em' already, except the harlem shake part.

so far.. he's been the king of c walking on the dance pad also.
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C-walking.. a wonderful move, but I say keep it implemented in certain spots of your dance and not do the whole song with just that. Repetition of same move over and over in routine = Bad, no matter how cool the move is.
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im not new to DDR, i've been playing for 2+ years now, and have just FINALLY decided to break away from tech playing to the freestyling. so far, i've just tried to move my arms....seems to be working ok. i need some help with foot work and making everything look SMOOTH. i tried some liquid/wave, and i think i kinda got it. but i need some pointers. like, how do i transfer the wave from arm to leg and back? i can't seem to get it right. also, do freeze moves on the dance pad usually look good? i mean, like the ones where u support urself with ur hands, almost like in handstance position. and just FREEZE! i can support my with my hands (not handstand, thats HARD!!!) i wanna learn howto do that. anywayz any pointer would be nice. peace out
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seem to be running out of ideas for freestyle routines to come up with. I had a whole bunch of possibilities with many songs from 4th+, but since that mix is no longer being used in tournaments, that reduced the number of ideas I had.


yeah.. i know what you mean. most of my routines are on 5th mix and below songs. good thing Extreme has alot of the old songs E13.gif

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how do i transfer the wave from arm to leg and back?


hmm.. what i do is move my knees out when my shoulders go down[in the wave]


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do freeze moves on the dance pad usually look good?


it depends how you fit it into the song. if you do plan on using a freeze move, DONT use the bar, it looks really crappy. its good to use them on parts in the song that are accented (like So Fabulous, So Fierce when the tempo changes, or Ecstacy when the song stops)
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thanx for the tips must FS now!!!!!! biggrin.gif
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A couple of questions:

In tourney freestyling, does one more often:

1) Freestyle on doubles or singles?

2) Use arrows as a freestyling base, or use blank space as freestyling base, or both?

(by #2 I mean do you pick songs with cool arrow movements and pattern freestyling to that, or pick songs with blank spaces and do whatever in that area?)

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Discoman wrote:
A couple of questions:

In tourney freestyling, does one more often:

1) Freestyle on doubles or singles?

either is fine... some people like more room, others dont like moving back and forth

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2) Use arrows as a freestyling base, or use blank space as freestyling base, or both?

both ~ you want something to do through the entire song.

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(by #2 I mean do you pick songs with cool arrow movements and pattern freestyling to that, or pick songs with blank spaces and do whatever in that area?)

more of the density of arrows... many freestylers like low concentration of arrows so it'll give them more room for movement in between quarter steps/ half steps and such.

choosing the song should be entirely on your dance style which would match the song and making sure that the arrow difficulty isn't too high so you can preform well enough. For me, I like songs in the 3 foot range... definately no greater than 4 feet.
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