DDR: Player Class System

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[That guy with the afro...]

[Slowpoke]

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If you want to get a pretty good idea of where the higher classes are, go to www.groovestats.com.

The breakdown sorta goes like this:

If you were to have 100 people venture to your local arcade (typical) to play, this is what they would be like.

30 of them would have no idea whatsoever what they are doing, play one song, and walk off.

Of the remaining 70, 50 would play on < level 6 difficulty.

Of the remaining 20, 16 would be able to play up to level 9 (but not pass level 10).

The remaining four would be able to at least pass level 10, with maybe one being able to AA level 10 (this used to be referred to as the "local guru").

You would not see a pro at your typical local arcade, because pros usually go to "magnet" arcades. These are arcades where more skilled players collect. There, you find a whole new ballgame:

Of the 100 regulars, 60 will be able to play up to level 9.

Of the remaining 40, 30 would be able to at least beat level 10 with a B or better (~A in ITG).

The remaining 10 would be a hodgepodge of Class 1+ mixed with pro.

Regional magnet arcades have roughly 20% of their playing population be pro (or close to it).

[Suko]

For all intents and purposes, the % isn't very important. The number of people from each category will vary greatly depending on which arcade you frequent. The only reason I put it down was so people can understand the demographics for each Class.

In the long run, if this class system ever takes off, the database will tell us the percentile breakdowns for each class. Very similar to how groovestats does this for the songs. So I feel that worrying about such things at this point is irrelevant.

On another note, I was also thinking it could be really awesome to integrate some kind of achievement or awards system into this. The foundation sounds like it might have already been done through the "yet to be implemented trophy system" on BeatSpace.net.

Maybe the requirements to reach a certain Class can be reached through the completion of achievements. So, instead of having only one method of reaching 2nd Class, you could do it in a variety of ways. Instead of a player having to complete 5 set requirements, they have to complete 5 achievements from a list of 8. It's something to think about. If anything it would make the system a lot more flexible and easier for players of all playing styles to progress appropriately.
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[Vandel.M]

i like that idea i got lost at the pro part though but i got a sense but like you guys should try and a get a definite like set class system so the whole community can take part and maybe this should get a sticky idk but yeah just my little 2 cents

[Suko]

I would love for there to be a universally adopted system for DDR or ITG players to use in reference to their "abilities". I'm hoping that with some time and everyone's input we can create a balanced Class system that is easy for players to participate in. Websites like Beatspace and Groovestats and DDRecall could definitely play a key role in getting this kind of thing universally accepted. But this idea was born less than a week ago, and still needs some refinement before we take it to that level.
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If you are looking for achievement barriers, here is a interesting list to chew over:

1. Able to beat an oni course
2. Able to beat a marathon course
3. Able to beat a survival course
4. Pass a song on expert mode (DDR) aka Heavy
5. Pass Max 300, Xepher (Oni), or Bag
6. AAA a song on expert mode
7. SDP a song on expert mode (<10 perfects)
8. Pass nightmare on normal
9. Pass nightmare on intense
10. Read flip
11. Pass an 11, 12, 13...
12. **, ***, **** a song
13. **, ***, or **** a certain percentage of hard/expert charts on ITG (113 official expert in total)
14. Obtain 70,80,90, or 100 percent greats on an expert song
15. Achieve a score of 0 (0%) while still passing a song.
16. Pass difficult edit songs like Welcome to Rainbow, Strangeprogram, Air, Boss on Parade, One Winged Angel, etc.

I think you see what I am getting at here.

Now, I will break each feat down by skill level:
Score = 1 to 8... where 8 means something extremely difficult and 1 is something extremely easy.

1. 2
2. 2
3. 4
4. 1
5. 3
6. 4
7. 8
8. 6
9. 8
10. 3 (on easy) 4 (on medium) 7 (on hard) 8 (on expert)
11. 5 (beating an 11), 6 (beating a 12) 7 (beating a 13)
12. 5 (**), 6 (***), 7 (****)
13. Varies... but ***ing more than 80 expert officials is an 8.
14. 4 (70%), 5 (80%), 6 (90%), 8 (100%)
15. 8
16. 7-8 (depends on the song)

[Suko]

[That guy with the afro...]

[GERARDAMO]

I think there should be two different sets of "achievements" for DDR and ITG, as not everyone plays both of them. I know it would be a great way to get people to actually play both games, but sometimes the reason has to do with not having access to one or the other. (Hi thar, Central New York!)
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[Suko]

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[Suko]

[v4extreme]

Recall should rate users according to this.
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[Suko]

I'm still putting ideas and strategies together to help make this system into something useful and practical. Things have been a bit hectic lately, but I'm going to put together an achievement chart soon and try and give appropriate point values to each.
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