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0. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:08 am    Post subject: flaming? Reply with quote

so i recently got warned for a post (in a thread which no longer exists) in which i made a comment about the itgfreak staff sucking roxor's cock (which they do imo), and i wanted to know how that's considered flaming when it wasn't against anyone on the site and i've seen far worse comments about offsite individuals. i pm'd the mod which gave me the warning points (jason) when it happened last week, but he still hasn't responded.
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1. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I then agreed. Since it's my opinion, and recieved 2 or 4 or however many points. But the person below me who I quote replied: "lolrofllol" didnt' recieve any. How come?
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2. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

Da Bar wrote:
itgfreak staff sucking roxor's cock


You're wondering why that's flaming?
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3. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

J Dogg wrote:
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itgfreak staff sucking roxor's cock


You're wondering why that's flaming?

yes because it has nothing to do with this site, or members of it. if i went into one of the political threads in random chat and said " George Bush sucks cock" i highly doubt i would've gotten warned for that, so how is this any different?
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4. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason is ITGFreak staff.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

randumb, the clouds god wrote:
Jason is ITGFreak staff.

so? when he's here, he's ddrfreak staff, not itgfreak staff.
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6. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

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if i went into one of the political threads in random chat and said " George Bush sucks cock" i highly doubt i would've gotten warned for that, so how is this any different?
Actually you probably would have. Political speech is fine, but don't lace it with epithets and preschool language.

At any rate, moderator decisions are, for the most part, made in a vacuum. It's our business whether to warn someone or not, and for how much, because it's our show we run here.
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7. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:21 am    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

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At any rate, moderator decisions are, for the most part, made in a vacuum. It's our business whether to warn someone or not, and for how much, because it's our show we run here.

so a mod can warn someone for anything or nothing just if they feel like it?
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8. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

Da Bar wrote:
Cutriss wrote:
At any rate, moderator decisions are, for the most part, made in a vacuum. It's our business whether to warn someone or not, and for how much, because it's our show we run here.

so a mod can warn someone for anything or nothing just if they feel like it?


I'm sure there's SOME discretion involved.
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9. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

Đăf, God of Lions wrote:
Da Bar wrote:
Cutriss wrote:
At any rate, moderator decisions are, for the most part, made in a vacuum. It's our business whether to warn someone or not, and for how much, because it's our show we run here.

so a mod can warn someone for anything or nothing just if they feel like it?


I'm sure there's SOME discretion involved.

i'm sure there is, but if a mod didn't like someone, than they could warn them for something that could be ever so slightly offensive, and wouldn't normally warrant points.
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10. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

Da Bar wrote:
Đăf, God of Lions wrote:
Da Bar wrote:
Cutriss wrote:
At any rate, moderator decisions are, for the most part, made in a vacuum. It's our business whether to warn someone or not, and for how much, because it's our show we run here.

so a mod can warn someone for anything or nothing just if they feel like it?


I'm sure there's SOME discretion involved.

i'm sure there is, but if a mod didn't like someone, than they could warn them for something that could be ever so slightly offensive, and wouldn't normally warrant points.


their are atleast TWO people right now who hate me personally who have the power to ban me and yet i am still here
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11. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da Bar wrote:
randumb, the clouds god wrote:
Jason is ITGFreak staff.
so? when he's here, he's ddrfreak staff, not itgfreak staff.
You make it sound like that he has to support one or the other.

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Sure, he's ITG and DDR freak staff, doesn't mean he has to support ddr when he's here, or itg when he's there.

But what's your point? What do you mean when you say that?

Da Bar wrote:
but if a mod didn't like someone, than they could warn them for something that could be ever so slightly offensive, and wouldn't normally warrant points.
I know of a few mods who don't like me, and yet I'm here as well. And they haven't given me points. Why? Follow the rules, don't get on their cases and you won't get any points. The mods can't abuse their power like that, if they could me and a bunch of other people would be banned in a heartbeat.
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12. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da Bar wrote:
randumb, the clouds god wrote:
Jason is ITGFreak staff.

so?


Uhh, you just said he sucked roxors cock.


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13. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: flaming? Reply with quote

Cutriss wrote:
Da Bar wrote:
if i went into one of the political threads in random chat and said " George Bush sucks cock" i highly doubt i would've gotten warned for that, so how is this any different?
Actually you probably would have. Political speech is fine, but don't lace it with epithets and preschool language.

At any rate, moderator decisions are, for the most part, made in a vacuum. It's our business whether to warn someone or not, and for how much, because it's our show we run here.


When have you heard someone say "rooster" in preschool?
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14. PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da Bar wrote:
randumb, the clouds god wrote:
Jason is ITGFreak staff.

so? when he's here, he's ddrfreak staff, not itgfreak staff.


So what if he was surfing both sites at the same time?

Oh wait, that doesn't matter because your point is ridiculous.
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15. PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh wait, that doesn't matter because your point is ridiculous.

how is my point rediculous? i wasn't flaming anyone on the site, so it shouldn't be a warning. insulting another site someone is with should not be grounds for a warning.
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16. PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But it is, so deal with it.

I'm sorry, but is there a particular problem you have with being courteous?

People might like to rag on us from "the other Bemani sites", but we're not going to allow people to stoop to that same level here. Specific complaints about those sites are fine, sure, but saying what you did is just asking for trouble.

As the saying goes, it's not what you did, it's how you did it. If you think that people at ITG Freak kiss up too much to Roxor, you can say that, but you had to go say it in Internet words, and that changed the entire tone of your post. Are you saying the same things about us? After all, I was the one that locked that thread away. Are we also in bed with Roxor because we're disallowing that particular thread of discussion?

Choose your words carefully, sir.
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17. PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutriss wrote:
As the saying goes, it's not what you did, it's how you did it. If you think that people at ITG Freak kiss up too much to Roxor, you can say that, but you had to go say it in Internet words, and that changed the entire tone of your post.

internet words? what part of my post was "internet words"? "sucking their cock" is pretty commonly accepted slang for "kissing up to someone" in real life, and it's just plain wrong for me to get warned because of how i talk.

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Flaming is the act of directly attacking another user or group of users.
from the faq. there was nothing at all direct about what i said, nor was it directed at any one user or group of users on the site.
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18. PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RoXoR staff are on DDRFreak, if I recall correctly. They also have a usergroup.

Thus, they are a group of users.
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19. PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malice of BluR wrote:
The RoXoR staff are on DDRFreak, if I recall correctly. They also have a usergroup.

Thus, they are a group of users.
but i wasn't insulting the roxor staff, nor directing any comments at them.
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